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Narnia Tier 1 CRT

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So, I guess this should be made in light of the tiering revisions, and just to improve the Emperor-Beyond-The-Sea's page, because I find the explanations there lacking quite a bit.

For one, Narnia's "Shadow-Lands". It's composed of different "worlds", or "countries", that are described as different universes entirely.


"Only dust," said Uncle Andrew. "Fine, dry dust. Nothing much to look at. Not much to show for a lifetime of toil, you might say. Ah, but when I looked at that dust (I took jolly good care not to touch it) and thought that every grain had once been in another world — I don't mean another planet, you know; they're part of our world and you could get to them if you went far enough — but a really Other World — another Nature, another universe — somewhere you would never reach even if you traveled through the space of this universe for ever and ever — a world that could be reached only by Magic — well!" Here Uncle Andrew rubbed his hands till his knuckles cracked like fireworks.
~ The Magician's Nephew​
When Digory and Polly went to the Wood between the Worlds, they find several small pools, each one leading into a different world, and the Wood itself not being part of any world.


"Why, if awe can get back to our own world by jumping into this pool, mightn't we get somewhere else by jumping into one of the others? Supposing there was a world at the bottom of every pool."

"But I thought we were already in your Uncle Andrew's Other World or Other Place or whatever he called it. Didn't you say -"

"Oh bother Uncle Andrew," interrupted Digory. "I don't believe he knows anything about it. He never had the pluck to come here himself. He only talked of one Other World. But suppose there were dozens?"

"You mean, this wood might be only one of them?"

"No, I don't believe this wood is a world at all. I think it's just a sort of in-between place."

Polly looked puzzled. "Don't you see?" said Digory. "No, do listen. Think of our tunnel under the slates at home. It isn't a room in any of the houses. In a way, it isn't really part of any of the houses. But once you're in the tunnel you can go along it and come into any of the houses in the row. Mightn't this wood be the same? — a place that isn't in any of the worlds, but once you've found that place you can get into them all."
~ The Magician's Nephew​
After Narnia is destroyed, the characters go through a Stable and enter Aslan's Country, where the True Worlds are, the regular ones at the pools being described as just shadows of the real things:


The Eagle is right," said the Lord Digory. "Listen, Peter. When Aslan said you could never go back to Narnia, he meant the Narnia you were thinking of. But that was not the real Narnia. That had a beginning and an end. It was only a shadow or a copy of the real Narnia, which has always been here and always will be here: just as our own world, England and all, is only a shadow or copy of something in Aslan's real world. You need not mourn over Narnia, Lucy. All of the old Narnia that mattered, all the dear creatures, have been drawn into the real Narnia through the Door. And of course it is different; as different as a real thing is from a shadow or as waking life is from a dream." His voice stirred everyone like a trumpet as he spoke these words: but when he added under his breath "It's all in Plato, all in Plato: bless me, what do they teach them at these schools!"
~ The Last Battle​
With the comparison of the regular worlds being just copies of Aslan's Country, being even compared to shadows, dreams and reflections on a mirror, I think this could count as a "higher dimensional" place. It's treated this way currently, at least.

Then a bit later they go up a mountain and we're shown a garden that is similar to the Stable:


"I see," she said at last, thoughtfully. "I see now. This garden is like the Stable. It is far bigger inside than it was outside."

"Of course, Daughter of Eve," said the Faun. "The further up and the further in you go, the bigger everything gets. The inside is larger than the outside."

Lucy looked hard at the garden and saw that it was not really a garden at all but a whole world
, with its own rivers and woods and sea and mountains. But they were not strange: she knew them all.

"I see," she said. "This is still Narnia, and, more real and more beautiful than the Narnia down below, just as it was more real and more beautiful than the Narnia outside the Stable door! I see... world within world, Narnia within Narnia...."

"Yes," said Mr. Tumnus, "like an onion: except that as you continue to go in and in, each circle is larger than the last."
~ The Last Battle​
Basically, this higher layer seems to be to Aslan's Country what said Country is to the regular multiverse.

If Aslan's Country counts as transcending the regular worlds, then the higher layers should also count as higher dimensions. There isn't really a number for them, from what I can tell, but it seems to imply that there are quite a few.

Should at least go "regular multiverse < Aslan's Country < One Higher Layer". Not sure what tier that'd be. Should only really scale to the Emperor for being the supreme being of the verse.

If it doesn't count as higher dimensions, then he should probably be downgraded to either Low 2-C for being stronger than Aslan, or 2-C if ruling (at least) dozens of universes counts.
 
Alright, due to the fact that it outright describes another world as another universe with in depth explanation, this is better than just a simply "World means universe" statement. And yes, it was mostly the "Countless worlds within worlds" always seemed vague, and could be interpreted as 2-B without more in depth context. But the whole each and every world being shadows of a world above it, could indicate planes of higher infinity. Same with the Each Circle being much larger than the last. However, I'm not 100% certain. It's definitely more elaborate than what's currently on the profile, but I prefer to hear input from someone like Ultima Reality.
 
Low 1-C seems fine to me.
 
As there its no instance or statement of more than a few "circle", Low 1-C seems fine to a possible 1-C if there are at least 3 "bigger circles".
 
If it goes "multiverse -> Aslan's Country -> Higher Layer", would that be equivalent to 5-D or 6-D, or anything higher?
 
5D Aslan's Country seems to me to be the safest assumption, since the comparsion to shadows and reflections (which are both 2D) to our 3D real world means that it transcends the regular Narnia multiverse by 1 level = 5D.

If The Emperor transcends Aslan's Country in a similar way to how it transcends the multiverse, then he should be 6D

Unrealted, but the the inconclusivness of if the emperor is 5D or 6D is one of the main reasons why I suggested to make 6D "Low Complex Multiverse Level+" (can be extended to 9D for 1-C, and 11D for High 1-C)
 
It seems Low 1-C appears to be what is generally agreed.
 
Since it's pretty likely that there are more layers than what's explicitly shown, would a "At least Low 1-C, likely higher" work?
 
InfiniteSped said:
Since it's pretty likely that there are more layers than what's explicitly shown, would a "At least Low 1-C, likely higher" work?
That seems pretty good to me
 
InfiniteSped said:
This seems like a pretty good explaination for his AP
 
Considering mine and Prom's input, I'd say it's good. Do you need me to unlock the profile?
 
I don't think it's ever stated that he does. Even if he created it, he wouldn't necessarily need to transcend it. Unless you have some quote about it?
 
InfiniteSped said:
I don't think it's ever stated that he does. Even if he created it, he wouldn't necessarily need to transcend it. Unless you have some quote about it?
I don't, but his previous profile mentioned that so I thought there is evidence to him transcending that I'm not aware of
 
Anything left to discuss here? I have locked the profile back up.
 
I'm not aware of anything like that. The previous profile didn't really give any quotes, so I wouldn't take that too seriously unless someone can find evidence for it.
 
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