Mortal kombat, so many outdated profiles, and some high tier upgrades

[RethPo]

So i got bored and looked through the mk profiles and realised most of these characters are outdated in their ap section, mainly small building level characters still having their old large building level ratings and even some small country even though the wiki axed them iirc. So imma fix that (or some staff member will for me cuz i dont got account mb), most of it is second timeline focused (though some original timeline profiles can be updated), but first i wanted to make some upgrades without writing a bible chapter (assuming that is legal here).

Soul amped sindel scales to shao kahn and the white revenents​

For starters, she fights alongside shao kahn through the entirety of her story, beats cetrion, and beats a white revenant.

Secondly her mk9 soul amped self scales to this from this scene where fujin brings up her beating all those fighters and shang specifically says "that is the power we need to beat cetrion", heavily implying she would have her original power (something shang has zero reason to lie about here), and is further backed by her being ressurected by the soul chamber, meaning it would make sense for her to have the power she had before.

White revenants should downscale from fire god liu kang and thusly, shao kahn​

The white revenents currently have large building level+ ratings for beating up on a multi city block level over 26 times stronger than them according to the profiles. Thats basically three men vs a gorilla with the kaioken.
We also saw the white revenants fighting evenly with shao kahn and sindel before eventually being defeated. And we know lui kang is a fusion of either 1 or 2 lui kangs, and raiden which was accepted.

If we downscale the revenents by 2 or 3 times (86.7 tons or 57.8 tons, both city block level+), then we have a much more physically contendable power gap for three of them to be able to beat up on one (basically the gap between three humans and an at best midway athlete)

Conclusion

Shao kahn and raiden level ratings all go from large building level+ to city block level+

Profiles to change large building+ to city block+
jade second key
kitana second key
Sindel first key should be small building level. Second key city block
triborg
kuai liang
tremor? I mean his justifications are pretty much that level so...
predator
scorpion
liu kang
nightwolf
kung lao second key
leatherface
johnny cage second key
jason voorhees
freddy krueger
raiden
shinnok
2nd key
cetrion
fujin
geras
shinnoks amulet
kratos
quan chi
shao kahn
kotal kahn
xenomorph
Profiles that just need updating anyway
Bo rai cho justifications are either small building level, or large building level should be updated to city block plus
kobra justifications are small building
kira should be 9-A
apep should be 9-A
sareena should be 9-A
khameleon should be 9-A
meat should be 9-A
hotaru should be 9-A
dairou should be 9-A
drahmin should be 9-A
ashrah this is all just 9-A
moloch should be 9-A
motaro should be 9-A
li mei should be 9-A
chameleon should be 9-A
nitara should be 9-A
mokap should be 9-A
Reiko first key should be 9-A, second key should be city block+
elder gods small country should be changed to city block+
Im going to leave onaga (heavily outdated), daegon, taven and blaze alone because i think they and high end original timeline stuff is being revised and the profiles above can still be changed​

 

[TegamiBachi25]

bump

 

[Rex_Eckles]

Makes enough sense to me, I agree.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

OP seems reasonable to me.

 

[TegamiBachi25]

bump

 

[RethPo]

Was feeling too lazy to get staff over here but then had a weird dream that armorchompy randomly bursted into the thread, left a huge bible chapter about inactive users and that downscaling doesnt work because wiki standards allow for 3 city block levels to theoretically beat up a 5-A before immediately closing the thread.

I should probably get some staff here and bump this.

 

[Pyro9278]

Bump

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Bump (This thread deserves more attention)

 

[Rex_Eckles]

Reiko first key should be 9-A, second key should be city block+

Since we're splitting the Midway and Netherrealm timelines and not allowing for cross-scaling for some reason so Reiko's second key will have to be removed and put into a Netherrealm timeline Reiko profile.

I'm planning on doing revisions for Midway and Netherrealm internal scaling, i.e. who gets to scale to what feats, so it'd be useful to get this one done first.

Try reaching out to thread mods, they tend to respond to requests.

 

[RethPo]

Since we're splitting the Midway and Netherrealm timelines and not allowing for cross-scaling for some reason so Reiko's second key will have to be removed and put into a Netherrealm timeline Reiko profile.

Looks to me like it might be easier to just change midway to second timeline but ill leave it to supporters on how to lay out the profiles. also pretty sure current mk deserves to be scaled to original timeline just as much, if not far more than windows 2hu should be scaled to pc 98 but thats derailing :/

I'm planning on doing revisions for Midway and Netherrealm internal scaling, i.e. who gets to scale to what feats, so it'd be useful to get this one done first.

Try reaching out to thread mods, they tend to respond to requests.

Does it matter if theyre not supporters or knowledgeable? if so ill get some in.

 

[Rex_Eckles]

Looks to me like it might be easier to just change midway to second timeline but ill leave it to supporters on how to lay out the profiles. also pretty sure current mk deserves to be scaled to original timeline just as much, if not far more than windows 2hu should be scaled to pc 98 but thats derailing :/

Does it matter if theyre not supporters or knowledgeable? if so ill get some in.

It would be ideal if they were, but it shouldn’t matter. Pretty sure normally, the knowledgeable members already iron out the proposal and then the mods give approval.

 

[Rex_Eckles]

And we know lui kang is a fusion of either 1 or 2 lui kangs, and raiden which was accepted.

Which thread accepted this?

 

[RethPo]

Which thread accepted this?

Im not sure about the specific thread but it was around when he first got the key before the calc was 8-A. Raiden was large building level+ and liu was city block level for being a fusion.

 

[Rex_Eckles]

Im not sure about the specific thread but it was around when he first got the key before the calc was 8-A. Raiden was large building level+ and liu was city block level for being a fusion.

I checked Kang's profile, it doesn't say that anymore. Not that I'm against re-upgrading him.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

While I agree there are a lot of outdated pages and there has been so much messiness and butchering of the ratings; especially god tiers I feel where heavily downgraded unfairly. I'd like more time to take a look at some of the various accepted calculations first. Neutral for now though.

 

[RethPo]

While I agree there are a lot of outdated pages and there has been so much messiness and butchering of the ratings; especially god tiers I feel where heavily downgraded unfairly. I'd like more time to take a look at some of the various accepted calculations first. Neutral for now though.

If you mean the calcs on the verse page, i think some of them were also either outdated or rejected by revisions later, and the page just hasnt been updated well either especially in the powers and abilities section.

There are a few things that would be upgrades if re-accepted (only things being some armageddon and onaga stuff, raidens storm, some tier5 fatalities and mkx comics stuff if cannon) but i would rather try focus more on how the characters scale to others and getting the pages up to date so any major revisions will be way smoother later on. One can o' worms at a time.

 

[Rex_Eckles]

Bump.