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More Animorphs (Ellimist and Crayak) Revisions?

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Because I do not remember seeing it in action, and you do not seem to edit much.
 
I edited those profiles before, and didn't deviate... how about this? You guys tell me where to lead, and I can hand you the finished profile raw text, for you to add to the profiles? Again, it's mostly me worried about spelling errors or perhaps grammar, and I tend to be... very strict on that thing. As I said, I was just wondering if ByAsura wants the pre-god forms to be rated at 4-B rather than 4-C to 4-B... should we just wait for him?
 
Well, I still prefer if some experienced editor like ByAsura handles the editing. It is safer. Sorry.
 
I think maybe you're confusing me? I'm not talking about actually editing it on the profile page, but on my Word docs, and then handing it over to somebody else for review. Unless you're just flat-out banning me from taking part in this anymore, in which case, why? If I'm not actually gonna edit when the pages are unlocked?
 
Okay. If you just want somebody to review, I suppose that is fine.
 
Sure, but first, there was my question - do you want it changed from 4-C to 4-B to just 4-B? I never got an answer on that.
 
That was kinda what we agreed to. I wouldn't edit the profile page, but submit the stuff for review.
 
Here ya go.

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Toomin the Ellimist
"Once we had hands. Not much different from these. But that was a long time ago. Almost a billion of your years. We evolved as all living things do, some faster, some slower. We were among the first sentient species, but we evolved slowly. Still, given enough time, even slow change can become profound. Back when all Earth could boast were a few simple single-celled animals, we were beginning to watch the night sky and understand the movements of our own planet. We learned and we grew powerful. By the time worms first crawled in the mud of Earth, we were traveling in faster-than-light ships. And when the first dinosaurs walked we . . . we had become much as I am today."
~ The Ellimist, explaining his origins to the Animorphs, #26. The Attack
Summary
The Ellimist was originally a Ketran gamer, an ancient avian-based species which existed almost a billion years ago. Given the name of Azure Level, Seven Spar, Extension Two, Down-Messenger, Forty-one, his chosen name was "Toomin" and his game name was "Ellimist." In his first life, he was a brilliant loser whom was invited to join an intergalactic diplomatic mission which quickly went wrong and wound up in the total extinction of their entire species. In his second life, he was a captive prisoner to a sentient sea sponge of kidnapped collective minds calling itself "Father," where through improvisation and imagination, the Ellimist absorbed those memories to make part of his own mind, including Father himself. In his third life, the Ellimist built a transorganic vehicle to contain and filter through the wave of memories that were now part of his being and kept constantly evolving and upgrading his design as he engaged in a long war with the dark malicious gamer known as "Crayak." In the end game, the Ellimist was sucked into a black hole and through a strange quirk of fate was able to ascend to a higher plane of existence once his hive fleet was wiped out, leaving him with the powers he has to this day and still playing his complex cosmic chess game with the Crayak.

Powers and Stats
Tier: 10-A | High 6-A | 4-B | At least Low 2-C, possibly far higher

Name:
Azure Level, Seven Spar, Extension Two, Down-Messenger, Forty-one aka Toomin or "the Ellimist"

Origin: Animorphs

Gender: Male

Age: Close to a billion years old

Classification: Ketran, a repository of many other races, godlike being

Powers and Abilities: True Flight | Spaceflight, Dimensional Travel (is capable of flying through Zero-space, the "non-dimension" opposite normal space where faster-than-light travel is possible), Information Manipulation (as a Ketran, had access to the biologically-occurring uninet, and later on, builds a huge archives of vast computer databanks he can access and modify at will as part of his ever-expanding body/ship), Energy Projection (powerful enough to blast holes into small moons after constructing his body/ship), likely Antimatter Manipulation (could fire nuclear missiles at opponents from an arms factory in his body/ship that doused his foe "with the radiation of a quasar"), Energy Absorption and Plasma Manipulation (can attack with blasts generated from siphoning energy off a star), Invisibility (is capable of surrounding his body/ship with stealth/cloaking technology), Gravity Manipulation (while battling Crayak he is also capable of warping space the same way he does with his own version of "gravity distorters"), Forcefield Creation (while fighting Crayak, who had similar shields), Multiple Personalities (includes the memory imprints from all the minds he absorbed during his time spent captive with Father on the oceanic moon), Matter Manipulation (completely capable of genetically engineering and spawning off new lifeforms within his body/ship, altering that life on the subatomic level, and then even filtering his consciousness into it as an avatar), Weapon Creation (nestled inside his body/ship is a weapons factory that was able to produce nuclear weapons almost instantaneously), Earth Manipulation and Plant Manipulation (he seeded various worlds with habitable "oxygen-producing" plant life), Information Analysis (using his body/ship's scanners), Body Control (with his body/ship, to a various array of helpful functions), Self-Sustenance (Type 3), Regenerationn (Low-Mid), Large Size (constantly evolving; likely Type 2 but potentially develops into Type 3 or 4), Cyborgization | Reality Warping, Space-Time Manipulation, Spatial Manipulation (he is able to transplant the Animorphs millions of light-years through space in a flash and then return them to the same moment which they had left as well as shifting the Earth halfway along its orbit and then back and forth again to elude Crayak's touch), Time Manipulation (Ellimist can influence existing timelines, create new timelines, or repair broken timelines), Time Travel (transported the Animorphs to an alternate future timeline where the Yeerks won), Alternate Future Display, Time Stop (he is able to freeze time indefinitely), Higher-Dimensional Existence (he is likely permanently bound to the space-time structure of the universe), Higher-Dimensional Manipulation, Quantum Manipulation, Empathic Manipulation (like the Crayak he could override the wills of sentient beings if he chooses to), Biological Manipulation (he forced the Animorphs to demorph out of their roach bodies and back into their human state), Dream Manipulation (he subtly influenced Rachel's dreams to help her find out where the Kandrona was located), Perception Manipulation (he could appear in the guise of whatever shape he felt fit the moment, whether as a glowing old man, a hawk/human hybrid, or a young human girl), Memory Manipulation (wiped away Loren's memories of Elfangor), Pocket Reality Manipulation (like the Crayak, is able to create pocket realities, like the kind he showed to Tobias, and he is superior to the composite dimension of Earth and the Yeerk and Andalite homeworlds that Loren, Elfangor, and Visser Thirty-two created using the Time Matrix), Technological Manipulation, Avatar Creation, Portal Creation (when he first appeared to the Animorphs, it was as if the air itself in front of them had opened up from all the sides, front, and back), Power Bestowal as well as Power Nullification, Power Modification (he easily restored Tobias's morphing powers), Intangibility (could pass through solid objects in his avatars like thin air), Teleportation (he could appear at any time and any place throughout the universe), Telepathy, Existence Erasure (he can erase an entire generation of descendants going back through their family's history, according to Jake), Acausality (Types 1 & 5), Non-Corporeal, Cosmic Awareness (he became aware that Crayak was threatening the Earth and the future of humanity millions of years ago), likely Immortality (Types 1, 5 & 9), Illusion Creation (was able to present the Animorphs with -dimensional imagery of his long war with Crayak)

Attack Potency: Likely Athlete Level (as a Ketran, was required to perform a strenuous activity frequently) | Multi-Continent Level (was able to totally bombard a moon out of existence merely hours after constructing his transorganic vessel to contain his repository of alien memories, pushed an entire asteroid field into position to stop war between two neighboring species, is powerful enough to devastate whole planets) | Solar System Level (he was able to constantly improve his biological/technological abilities enough to rival and at times surpass Crayak, a sentient planetoid, during the course of their war, by first drawing energy away from a sun that was used to vaporize a world's ocean, and then later employing weaponry capable of destroying solar systems and only continued to get stronger, eclipsing himself in power) | At least Universe Level+ (he is now merged as one within the space-time continuum after being stretched across Z-space and normal space and then compressed down to nothingness within a black hole, and has high control over the strands of space and time as he is capable of erasing, reconstructing, and manipulating an entire timeline entirely at his leisure), possibly far higher (he is superior to Z-space, a realm of infinite white emptiness, manipulating it on a fundamental level, as well as the Time Matrix, a reality-warping time machine which he created, and has also been further theorized to be a higher-dimensional entity, at least 4-D according to Elfangor)

Speed: Likely Athletic Human (a very impressive flyer) | Massively FTL+ | Infinite (he can still move within a dimension of stopped time across the whole space-time continuum which he has frozen and even draw other beings to this zero-moving temporal plane as well)

Lifting Strength: Class G (his wings provided lift for his home crystal) | Class P (moved 74 asteroids with his transorganic ship to create an orbital minefield in order to prevent two warring species from destroying each other) | Unknown, at least Universal+, possibly far higher

Striking Strength:
Likely Athlete Class | Multi-Continent Class | Solar System Class | Unknown, at least Universal+, possibly far higher

Durability:
Likely Athlete Level | Multi-Continent Level | Solar System Level | Unknown, at least Universe Level+ (is bound to the fabric of space-time, so destroying it is necessary to kill him for good), possibly far higher

Stamina:
Likely Athletic | Virtually Inexhaustible | Infinite

Range: Likely hundreds of meters | Galactic | Universal

Standard Equipment: The Time Matrix

Intelligence: Average | Extraordinary Genius | Unknown

Weaknesses: The Ellimist was born a mortal being, and in spite of his evolution of the gods, still suffers from mortal foibles. Example: Crayak was able to trick him into emerging from Z-space too close to a black hole and he fell inside. If he feels he is winning a game, especially one that involves real life and death, he might get overconfident. The Ellimist, like Crayak, has a deep-seated "need" for a game to play and spared Crayak when he could have destroyed him in an instant to allow him to follow him to his higher-dimensional plane to keep their contest going. When interacting with his "players" on his board, the Ellimist prefers to operate using loopholes and half-truths rather than being direct with them and thus it is hard to know if one is really able to trust him, at least from the perspective of the lesser-dimensional beings he makes into his pawns.

Key: Ketra | Transorganic Spaceship/Hive Fleet | Cosmic Entity

Others
Notable Victories:

Notable Losses:

Inconclusive Matches:


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Crayak by madteaparty
"I'm just a gamer. Like you. But with a perhaps different philosophy. I don't play the game to save the species, but to annihilate it. I play the game of genocide. This galaxy has even more potential games within it than the galaxy I left behind. I will cleanse this galaxy of all life, too. Then, when no sentient thing is left alive, I will kill you, Ellimist. That's my game. Shall we play?"
~ Crayak's challenge to the Ellimist, The Ellimist Chronicles
Summary
Crayak is dark and malevolent presence in the galaxy whose ultimate dream is to pit civilizations against each other in a game of xenocide until there is only one single sentient species left to be dominated by him, which is part of his larger goal in gaining mastery of the weaving fabric of space and time, to obtain absolute mastery over the "software" which runs the universe, and a hundred million years ago he first encountered the Ellimist and engaged him in an intergalactic conflict of life and death, forcing the Ellimist to choose which species would live and die, escalating until the battle wiped out dozens of space-faring races, and many more who would reach that level, until at the end of their war he had reached the same non-corporeal higher plane that the Ellimist occupied, where the two agreed to resolve their contest with a cosmic chess game which has been going on over countless eons.

Powers and Stats
Tier: Likely High 6-A, possibly far higher | 4-B | At least Low 2-C, possibly far higher

Name:
Crayak

Origin: Animorphs

Gender: Unknown

Age: At least a hundred million years old

Classification: Self-styled "gamer," sentient planetoid, big red eye, godlike being

Powers and Abilities: Spaceflight, Dimensional Travel (is capable of flying through Zero-space, the "non-dimension" opposite normal space where faster-than-light travel is possible), Body Control (in control of his own planetoid surface to the same degree the Ellimist has over his body/ship), Self-Sustenance (Type 3), Energy Projection (could return fire and match the Ellimist blow-for-blow), Weather Manipulation (he could provide a sustaining atmosphere and suitable conditions for the lifeforms on his planetoid surface), Large Size (at least Type 4, possibly Type 5), Gravity Manipulation (tried to destroy the Ellimist using "gravity distorters"), Energy Absorption and Plasma Manipulation (similar to the Ellimist, he can draw energy from stars and harness it against his opponent during the waning stages of their eons-long war), Forcefield Creation, Matter Manipulation (he seeded his planetoid body with various forms of life, including "sycophants and toadies"), likely Animal Manipulation (there are at least over the 20,000 living beings living across his planetoid's surface), Regenerationn (High-Mid) | Reality Warping, Space-Time Manipulation, Spatial Manipulation, Time Manipulation (like the Ellimist he could rearrange entire timelines purely at his leisure), Time Travel (at Jake's pleas, took the Animorphs back in time to an alternate timeline where they would never encounter Elfangor), Alternate Future Display, Time Stop, Higher-Dimensional Existence (like the Ellimist, is likely permanently bound to the space-time structure of the universe), Higher-Dimensional Manipulation, Quantum Manipulation (is able to "fine-tune" the physical quanta that make up the Animorphs to allow them to pursue Visser Four through an altered Earth history), Empathic Manipulation (in an alternate timeline, subtly manipulated the Animorphs to take another path home the night they got morphing powers), Biological Manipulation, Dream Manipulation (had haunted Jake's dreams in the weeks leading up to their battle on the Iskoort homeworld), Perception Manipulation (like the Ellimist Crayak could appear in any form, shape, or size that he sees fit but prefers the "big red eye"), Memory Manipulation, Pocket Reality Manipulation (created a side dimension arena for Rachel to fight with Visser One after granting her the same powers which he and the Drode both possess), Technological Manipulation (similarly to the Drode, could manipulate machines such as reprogramming the Pemalite ship's computer banks to set the Chee androids to self-destruct), Avatar Creation, Portal Creation, Power Bestowal as well as Power Nullification (gifted Rachel the same powers he and the Drode have and then presumably took them away once she rejected it), Power Modification, Intangibility, Teleportation, Telepathy, Existence Erasure, Acausality (Types 1 & 5), Non-Corporeal, Cosmic Awareness, likely Immortality (Types 1, 5 & 9), Illusion Creation

Attack Potency: Likely Multi-Continent Level, possibly far higher (described as being the size of a small moon, far superior to the Ellimist prior to their war to the point that he could have one-shotted him) | Solar System Level (like the Ellimist he is capable of siphoning energy from stars and fueling that energy against his enemy) | At least Universe Level+ (he is comparable in power and function to the Ellimist, and is strong enough to stalemate him), possibly far higher (like the Ellimist Crayak is stated to be a higher-dimensional entity, at least 4-D according to Elfangor)

Speed: Massively FTL+ | Infinite (like the Ellimist, he would also be able to stop time over a space-time continuum and not only continue moving within it, but could also bring other beings into this zero-temporal dimension)

Lifting Strength: Class P | Unknown, at least Universal+, possibly far higher

Striking Strength:
Multi-Continent Class | Solar System Class | Unknown, at least Universal+, possibly far higher

Durability:
Multi-Continent Level | Solar System Level | Unknown, at least Universe Level+ (like the Ellimist, he is bound to the fabric of space and time, so destroying it is necessary to kill him for good), possibly far higher

Stamina:
Virtually Inexhaustible | Infinite

Range: Galactic | Universal

Standard Equipment: None Notable

Intelligence: Unknown

Weaknesses: Crayak is extremely arrogant and sadistic. Example: Given the choice between wiping away the Howlers' memories or just killing them outright to preserve the collective memories of the species, he instead opted to murder all seven. He must always have a "game" to play and he would prefer to choose his own destruction than sitting around and passively observing events unfold without interference.

Keys: Sentient Planetoid | Cosmic Entity

Others
Notable Victories:

Notable Losses:

Inconclusive Matches:
 
No offense, but I think my descriptions more accurate and neater.
 
I mean... yours are... are incomplete... they aren't part of the full powerset... I don't see any of the other powers listed there...
 
I said descriptions, such as the page, not the whole page.

Firstly, the energy produced by our sun in one second is 3.86e+26 watts, or Multi-Continent level, which is the same tier as vaporizing an ocean. Secondly, the description "totally bombard a moon out of existence" is extremely exaggerated

  • From space I looked back on it. What was fitting? Some races burned their dead, some ate them, some buried them in the ground. Some finality was called for so that the floating bones and exoskeletons and shells of all those honored dead could cease to be grotesque. I called on my weapons and I blasted the moon till it broke apart, till the atmosphere was ripped away, till the sea boiled up into the vacuum, till the molten remains spiraled slowly down in the gravity well of the planet and were incinerated on reentry.
Third, he was not powerful enough to push the entire asteroid field at once, but over an extremely long time

  • But great as my powers were, they were not that great. And yet I could surely move an asteroid. Or two. Or a hundred. The system's asteroid belt was just beyond the orbit of Inner World. It was a simple calculation, well within my abilities. And I had sufficient brute power in my body/ship. I left the two sides to murder each other and withdrew to the asteroid belt. It would take some time: Asteroids are not rocks to be casually flung about. But perhaps the two sides, seeing what I was about, would suspend their battle. I used my body/ship to nudge an asteroid, not a large one, out of its orbit. My engines were more than capable. The asteroid slid down the gravity well, vectored to find a new, lower, faster orbit.I worked and waited. In a few weeks' time the two battling worlds had separated by enough to force them to suspend hostilities — a natural part of their conflict. It was only at their nearest approach that the two worlds could reach out and kill the other. `I waited as my fleet of asteroids hurtled through space. And when the time came I slowed them, braked, nudged them into place. It took the better part of a year.
Fourth, mine is better written, neater and makes more sense: The Ellimist did not supass himself in power, he was surpassing Crayak in power, and the latter employed weaponry capable of destroying Solar Systems as well. There's also a single key for the transorganic fleet, so it makes more sense to say Multi-Continent level to Solar System level than placing a tab, and the first word of each sentence is uncapitalized. Sorry if this sounded mean.
 
Sigh... so what now? Should I edit those docs to conform more to yours, or just give up? I don't want this becoming a huge battle, but I honestly don't know how to proceed...
 
I'll just use your's and add some of my descriptions. It's fine.

The pages need to be unlocked.
 
Okay, can you at least post here, maybe...? I frankly don't care at this point, but... I do really think... hope... want no excessive spelling or grammar errors in the final product, if that's okay?
 
This is what I plan to add to your changes

Powers and Abilities: True Flight | Spaceflight, Dimensional Travel (Can travel through Zero-Space, a "non-dimension" and opposite of true reality where FTL travel is possible), Information Analysis, Body Control, Self-Sustenance (Type 3), Regenerationn (Low-Mid), Large Size (Constantly evolving; likely Type 2 but potentially develops into Type 3 or 4), Cyborgization, Information Manipulation (As a Ketran, had access to the biologically-occurring uninet, and later on, a huge archives of vast computer databanks he can access and modify at will as part of his ever-expanding body/ship), Energy Projection, likely Antimatter Manipulation (Could fire nuclear missiles at opponents from an arms factory in his body/ship that doused his foe "with the radiation of a quasar"), Energy Absorption and Plasma Manipulation (Siphoned the energy of a star and used it to directly attack Crayak), Invisibility (Contains cloaking fields, described the stealth technology of a ship as primitive), Gravity Manipulation and Spatial Manipulation (Warped space in a similar manner to Crayak's "gravity distorters" during their battle), Forcefield Creation, Multiple Personalities (Includes the memory imprints from all the minds he absorbed during his time spent captive with Father on the oceanic moon), Matter Manipulation (Capable of genetically engineering and spawning off new lifeforms within his body/ship, altering that life on the subatomic level, and then even filtering his consciousness into it as an avatar), Weapon Creation (His body contains a weapons factory, produced nuclear weapons almost-instantaneously), Earth Manipulation and Plant Manipulation (Seeded various worlds with habitable "oxygen-producing" plant life) | Same as before, but to an incalculably higher level, plus Reality Warping, Time Manipulation (The Ellimist can influence existing timelines, create new timelines, or repair broken timelines), Time Travel (Transported the Animorphs to an alternate future timeline where the Yeerks won), Alternate Future Display, Time Stop (Able to freeze time indefinitely), Higher-Dimensional Existence (Permanently bound to the space-time structure of the universe), Higher-Dimensional Manipulation, Quantum Manipulation, Empathic Manipulation (Like Crayak, he could override the wills of sentient beings if he chose to), Biological Manipulation (Forced the Animorphs to demorph out of their roach bodies and back into their human state), Dream Manipulation (Subtly influenced Rachel's dreams to help her find out where the Kandrona was located), Perception Manipulation (Can appear in the guise of whatever shape he felt fit the moment, whether as a glowing old man, a hawk/human hybrid, or a young human girl), Memory Manipulation (Wiped away Loren's memories of Elfangor), Pocket Reality Manipulation (Like Crayak, he is able to create pocket realities, such as the one he showed to Tobias, superior to the composite dimension of Earth and the Yeerk and Andalite homeworlds that Loren, Elfangor, and Visser Thirty-two created using the Time Matrix), Technological Manipulation, Avatar Creation, Portal Creation (When he first appeared to the Animorphs, it was as if the air itself in front of them had opened up from all the sides, front, and back), Power Bestowal, Power Nullification, Power Modification (Easily restored Tobias's morphing powers), Intangibility (Could pass through solid objects in his avatars like thin air), Teleportation (Can appear at any time and any place throughout the universe), Telepathy, Existence Erasure (Can erase an entire generation of descendants going back through their family's history, according to Jake), Acausality (Types 1 & 5), Non-Corporeal, Cosmic Awareness (Became aware that Crayak was threatening the Earth and the future of humanity millions of years ago), likely Immortality (Types 1, 5 & 9), Illusion Creation (Was able to present the Animorphs with -dimensional imagery of his long war with Crayak)

Attack Potency: Likely Athlete Level (As a Ketran, he was required to perform a strenuous activity frequently) | Multi-Continent level (Incinerated a small moon mere hours after constructing his transorganic vessel, capable of stopping meteors powerful enough to devastate planets. Upgraded his fleet to rival and, at times, surpass Crayak, a planetoid the size of a small moon, during their war. Siphoned the energy of a star and used it vaporize a planet's entire ocea) to Solar System level (During the later portion of their war, Crayak and the Ellimist employed weaponry capable of destroying solar systems and continued to grow stronger, slowly eclipsing the former in power) | At least Universe Level+ (Merged with the space-time continuum after being stretched across Z-space and normal space and compressed down to nothingness within a black hole, capable of erasing, reconstructing, and manipulating an entire timeline at his leisure), possibly far higher (Superior to Z-space, a realm of infinite white emptiness, manipulating it on a fundamental level, as well as the Time Matrix, a reality-warping time machine which he created, and has also been further theorized to be a higher-dimensional entity, at least 4-D according to Elfangor)
 
I will unlock the pages for ByAsura to edit. Tell me here when you are done.
 
Sigh... fine, whatever... I think I'm taking a hiatus from this place.

Can you please lock this thread...
 
How so? Aren't ByAsura's edits good enough?
 
Edits are fine, but it's not entirely 100% grammatically correct, like "(Can" should be "(can" for example, put commas where they needed, etc, and so on, that kind of thing. Perhaps it's nitpicking, but... it is something that's hard to deal with for profile pages I spent so much time and energy trying to make great. Plus I still feel a tiny bit alienated, tbh. And it really feels like that blow-up a few months ago in the Star Trek thread.

Because the Ellimist is immune to cause and effect within the books.
 
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