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Monsters, Inc.: CRTing because we care

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Seems fine, but do you know how to make a sandbox to properly rework Sully? Not saying his profile is in a bad state, it's got scans it really isn't, but it could use some touching up on, y'know?
 
Fairydragon43 said:
Rapidly did a sandbox (Don't mind the name lol) for him and edited some stuff, tell me if anything should change
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References, mostly

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Ungrim Ironfist

Ungrim Ironfist was the last of the Slayer Kings of Karak Kadrin. There was never a Dwarf more torn between his duties than Ungrim Ironfist. As the King of Karak Kadrin, he was oathbound to protect his kingdom and his people. As the all-father of the Drakebeard Clan, he had to ensure that his...
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Fairydragon43 said:
Powers and Abilities
  • Fear Manipulation: It should just be changed to Social Influencing. Sulley isn't supernaturally bringin fear to them.
  • Natural Weaponry: Just add some context (Conventional: Sulley has sharp claws which can easily leave gashes in wood alongside having horns)
  • 4th Wall Awareness: Should just be removed as it's from an ad and thus not canon
  • Martial Arts: Sulley never displayed Martial Arts nor is he even all that skilled at fighting as he usually relies on overpowering or scaring his target
  • Weapon Proficiency: I have no idea why that's even there as Sulley never uses a weapon. The closest thing was when he briefly held an axe in the comics
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Yeah, the Fear Manipulation should be removed, the justification for it is ridiculous. I honestly think it shouldn't even be social influencing considering it's an ability that affects one's decision, typically associated with psychological manipulation. Being scared is a natural reaction to getting freaked out, so I'd disagree with replacing it with "social influencing". The image you provided for Natural Weaponry is broken, though, judging by James's appearance alone that ability addition shouldn't be anything controversial so I'm fine with that. The 4th Wall Awareness appears to be from a trailer at a glance so I'm fine with removing it unless someone debates about the continuity of the verse regarding what and which content should be canon. Martial Arts and Weapon Proficiency removal seems fine.
Fairydragon43 said:
Stats
Seeing as this calculation was accepted, it should be added to the profile, he'll still remain wall level but more concretely so
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Sure.
Fairydragon43 said:
His speed should also simply be changed to Superhuman, considering the large advance the bus had on him
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I don't know about this... the bus was going extremely slow by the looks of it and realistically, buses can't accelerate over 30 km/h within a few seconds.
Fairydragon43 said:
I'm thinking of making Sulley at least Gifted in scaring, His scare cards note that he and Mike had a record breaking debut and would revolutionize scaring alongside approaching the scare record at lighting speed. This should make him comparable if not superior to Betty Stevenson, a monster that was ranked top in the nation 6 out of the past 8 years she spent at Monster, Inc.
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I don't see anything exceptional that'll give him Gifted intelligence, especially since when we don't even know what "Revolutionising Scaring" means. And that "lightning speed" is a hyperbole to imply his efficiency at work. I'll have to disagree with this.
Fairydragon43 said:
Let's also get on with Randall

Powers and Abilities
  • Fear Manipulation: Just like Sulley, this should be removed as Randall is not supernaturally bringin fear to them.
  • Martial Arts: Not...really? I mean sure Randall does overwhelm Sulley with physical attacks but it's merely cause he can't see him
  • Weapon Proficiency: Hitting someone over the head with a can is not weapon proficiency, otherwise we should give 5 years old who swing a stick weapon proficiency too
  • Invisibility: I think it should probably be removed as Randall doesn't really turn invisible. He's just using his natural camouflaging
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Looks good.
Fairydragon43 said:
Stats
Seeing as he can harm Sulley, Randall should also scale to this calculation

Potential Addition
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Seems alright.
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Mike merely saying "this is our world" and "This is Topeka" sounds rather vague. Though, done some research; the human world and the monster world turn out to be actual separate dimensions. I can agree on Dimensional Travel is that's the case but how is it related to BFR? Like, have they ever used it in combat?
 
GarrixianXD said:
one's decision, typically associated with psychological manipulation. Being scared is a natural reaction to getting freaked out, so I'd disagree with replacing it with "social influencing"
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We quite literally have "Instigating Fear" as part of Social Influencing. Monsters trained in scaring sound like "Instigating Fear" to me. Plus they don't just roar/scream at people, they are trained in order to target specific fears such as seen here when the woman monster says "This young boy is afraid of snakes. a roar wouldn't make him scream, it would make him cry."
GarrixianXD said:
I don't know about this... the bus was going extremely slow by the looks of it and realistically, buses can't accelerate over 30 km/h within a few seconds.
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I suppose? But the bus still did have a large advance on him, i could settle for something like At least Athletic Human


GarrixianXD said:
I don't see anything exceptional that'll give him Gifted intelligence, especially since when we don't even know what "Revolutionising Scaring" means. And that "lightning speed" is a hyperbole to imply his efficiency at work. I'll have to disagree with this.
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Well...yeah? Lightning Speed in that context means that Sulley is an extremely efficient scarer, which would require high scaring knowledge as shown above Monsters don't just randomly roar at kids, they are trained in various kinds of scare techniques. As for Revolutionizing Scaring i think the context is within itself, Mike and Sulley's techniques are getting more and more reknowned due to how well they perform seen as they were elected Rookie of the year.
GarrixianXD said:
related to BFR? Like, have they ever used it in combat?
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Here's a scene where it shows them literally using a door to trap randall in the human world. So yes. A massive part of the movie is also Mike and Sulley being banished to the human world through a door.
 
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Fairydragon43 said:
We quite literally have "Instigating Fear" as part of Social Influencing. Monsters trained in scaring sound like "Instigating Fear" to me. Plus they don't just roar/scream at people, they are trained in order to target specific fears such as seen here when the woman monster says "This young boy is afraid of snakes. a roar wouldn't make him scream, it would make him cry."
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Instigating fear usually means actually inducing fear upon someone for a period of time, though, simply jumpscaring someone wouldn’t qualify. Like, I can scare someone from behind and scare them but won’t actually make them fear me.

And of course it’s a young boy; it’s rather logical that kids are more easily frightened than adults.
Fairydragon43 said:
I suppose? But the bus still did have a large advance on him, i could settle for something like At least Athletic Human
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Athletic Human can work.
Fairydragon43 said:
Well...yeah? Lightning Speed in that context means that Sulley is an extremely efficient scarer, which would require high scaring knowledge as shown above Monsters don't just randomly roar at kids, they are trained in various kinds of scare techniques. As for Revolutionizing Scaring i think the context is within itself, Mike and Sulley's techniques are getting more and more reknowned due to how well they perform seen as they were elected Rookie of the year.
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If that’s the case I’d say a simple Gifted rating is fine, but ‘at least’ is rather an extrapolation.
Fairydragon43 said:
I have a scene linked that shows them literally using a door to trap randall in the human world. So yes. A massive part of the movie is also Mike and Sulley being banished to the human world through a door.
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If that’s the case then it’ll be fine then. Though, I would like to see some back-up evidence to this.
 
GarrixianXD said:
Instigating fear usually means actually inducing fear upon someone for a period of time, though, simply jumpscaring someone wouldn’t qualify. Like, I can scare someone from behind and scare them but won’t actually make them fear me.

And of course it’s a young boy; it’s rather logical that kids are more easily frightened than adults.
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I don't really get the point? Like Sulley literally makes cops scream and run away, even if through a "jumpscare" it should still be counted as Instigating Fear

GarrixianXD said:
If that’s the case I’d say a simple Gifted rating is fine, but ‘at least’ is rather an extrapolation.
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That works for me

GarrixianXD said:
If that’s the case then it’ll be fine then. Though, I would like to see some back-up evidence to this
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I can't really give much more evidence? It's literally just shoving people through a door and it sends them to the human world, how much more evidence is needed?
 
Fairydragon43 said:
I don't really get the point? Like Sulley literally makes cops scream and run away, even if through a "jumpscare" it should still be counted as Instigating Fear
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Not really. Suddenly confronting something unexpected and then freaking out is rather a natural response from humans, which isn't fear instigation.
Fairydragon43 said:
I can't really give much more evidence? It's literally just shoving people through a door and it sends them to the human world, how much more evidence is needed?
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I meant to ask for the part where Randall was trapped by them, though, I was unaware you already linked it. I'll be fine with Dimensional Travel and BFR then.
 
Btw, just FYI, I'm not a thread mod nor an admin on VS Battles Wiki, so you'll have to call other staff members with administrator or thread moderator roles on VS Battles Wiki for this to pass.
 
I'm sorry but i don't feel quite as enthusiastic anymore, perhaps someone can make the addition themselves whenever this accepted, if it's even accepted.

Quite sorry again for the troubles i've caused 🙇‍♂️
 
Fairydragon43 said:
sorry for the late update! here's the profile with some references now!
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Uhm.. I have an question, why he is Class 1 when the things of his profile are only Peak Human?
Fairydragon43 said:
AH! i'm so sorry! it's my first time doing a CRT i can remove it for now 😖
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