Monster Hunter: Kushala-tier Upgrades & Discussion

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Yama is so ******* weird....

Yeah, as stated earlier, Yama canonically has a one-shot attack and has to be fought after White Fatalis, who doesn't have a one-shot. So... 5-A Yama Tsukami?

Pretty much what happens when MH delves into lovecraftian territory (just imagine if it could smile lol!).

Overall I think this CRT objectives have been reached we just gotta decide where a handful of monsters fit in terms of scaling it seems.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I forgot to mention the fact that Sunbreak shows Shagaru One-Shotting a Seregios and a Barrioth at the same time so I think he's good with just a High 6-C Tier.

Edit: to clarify, they weren't caught off guard either since they were staring it dead in the face before they got nuked.

 

[Sigilavox]

I forgot to mention the fact that Sunbreak shows Shagaru One-Shotting a Seregios and a Barrioth at the same time so I think he's good with just a High 6-C Tier.

Edit: to clarify, they weren't caught off guard either since they were staring it dead in the face before they got nuked.

Not that I'm opposing the tiering here, but one-shotting a couple of High 8-C's is not conclusive evidence for High 6-C.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Not that I'm opposing the tiering here, but one-shotting a couple of High 8-C's is not conclusive evidence for High 6-C.

No, but it makes more sense when there's another tier of characters between them so I'm saying he should be "At Least whatever Tier Kirin gets, likely High 8-C" since he did literally One-Shot two Apex Tier Monsters.

 

[Sigilavox]

So I know the damage numbers are off, but it looks like Apex Diablos is able to briefly overpower and hurt Kushala Daora

Would this be relevant for Apex monsters?

Unfortunately, that's a reskinned turf war using mods. The Apex Diablos shoots a fireball there; that's Espinas's turf war.

 

[GimmyJibbsJr]

Well damn that's mad embarrassing lmaooooooo

I legit didn't notice the flames, big stupid hours out here

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Unfortunately, that's a reskinned turf war using mods. The Apex Diablos shoots a fireball there; that's Espinas's turf war.

Yeah I forgot Rise was on PC too, making it super easy to mod. It kinda reminded me of a modded turf war between two Bazelgeuse (reusing the animation of two Diablos in MHW) tbh.

So does anything else need to be further discussed or can this CRT reach a conclusion?

 

[Sigilavox]

I think we have a solid conclusion with open ends for a later CRT regarding the likes of Ceadeus, Dah'ren, etc.

High 6-C --> Kushala + Nergigante, Ruiner Nergigante, Teostra, Lunastra, Velkhana, Espinas, Savage Deviljho, Rajang, Blackveil Vaal Hazak, Furious Rajang, Bazelgeuse, Seething Bazelgeuse, Deviljho
* (Can fight on equal terms with Kushala Daora)

High 6-C --> Vaal Hazak, Chameleos
* (Comparable to Kushala Daora)

At least High 8-C, possibly High 6-C --> Gold Rathian, Silver Rathalos, Abyssal Lagiacrus, Lucent Nargacuga, Molten Tigrex
* (Comparable to Gold Rathian and Silver Rathalos, who were theorized to be nesting in Nergigante territory)

High 6-C --> Amatsu, Akantor, Ukanlos, Crimson Glow Valstrax, Ahtal-Ka, Nakarkos, Yama Tsukami
* (Has higher hunting rewards than Kushala Daora, so should be at least comparable to it)

Low 6-B --> Gogmazios
* (Should scale to Shah Dalamadur)

Deviants might scale to Hellblade's calc, but since not all deviants are encountered in the same Low/High/G Rank, and they have widely varying HRP rewards, it's iffy.

Other variation species should scale to their base form unless we get evidence to the contrary

On the others, I have no clue.

All "Comparable" ratings here are based on the HRP metric.

 

[DMUA]

Anyways, I don't think we have that much to go over besides just changing the pages, I may do that assuming nobody raises objections by tomorrow

I forgor

starting now

 

[DMUA]

Done, but do feel free to check my edits (My eyes started glazing over after a bit and I probably just skimped out on justifying some scaling, frankly as long as I didn't accidentally miss a section I'm good)

 

[Sigilavox]

Thank you very much!