Mister Mind revision

[Gamma_Venom_567]

Since Mister Mind is the arch-enemy of the Marvel family as a whole he would be added to Primary antagonists now.

 

[Cropfist]

Black Adam is the Shazam family's arch-nemesis.

 

[Gamma_Venom_567]

Black Adam is the Shazam family's arch-nemesis.

Well not anymore these days dude and mister mind is the entire family archenemy black Adam is more billy'solo enemy

 

[Starbrand_Fan]

Well not anymore these days dude and mister mind is the entire family archenemy black Adam is more billy'solo enemy

Yeah, nowadays Mister Mind holds the title of being the arch enemy of the entire Shazam! Family as a whole (while each member has their own individual arch enemy), and is truly their most evil and dangerous opponent, despite his diminutive size.

 

[Antvasima]

That is a very recent development. I do not think that it seems warranted to add him as an archenemy.

 

[Gamma_Venom_567]

That is a very recent development. I do not think that it seems warranted to add him as an archenemy.

Dude this was always in the beginning dude he formed the first villain team and appeared in many arcs as the big bad Adam was originally a one shot villain dude.

 

[Antvasima]

Good point, but by that logic Doctor Sivana would be the archenemy.

 

[The_Impress]

Off-topic, I don't exactly understand the requirements for a comic character to be considered as a primary antagonist, so can someone clarify it?

 

[Antvasima]

Superhero comicbooks are too incoherent, with too many chaotically intertwining stories and characters, to easily categorise villains as primary antagonists for an omgoing primary storyline. However, we can make exceptions for recurrent archenemies.

 

[Gamma_Venom_567]

I mean too be fair Shazam has three archenimies Mister Mind,Doctor Sivana,and Black Adam though black adam had evoled into an anti-hero/anti-villain over the years. Doctor Sivan and Mister Mind have teamed up a couple times so those two would qualify as arch-enimies.

Spawn had Violator,Jason Wynn, and Malebolgia.

Captain America had Red Skull

Superman has Lex luthor,Brainiac,and General Zod

X-men has Magento and Apocalypse.

Spider-Man has Doctor Octopus and Normal Osborn.Venom was one until he became more of an anti-hero and now has Carnage as an arch-enemy.

Flash had Captain Cold,Professor Zoom,and Gorilla Grodd.

Wonder Woman has Cheetah,Circe,and Ares.

Fantastic Four had Doctor Doom.

Batman has Joker and ra's Al Ghul.

Savage Dragon had the Overlord,Damien Darklord,and Cybeface.

Hellboy had grigori Rasputin and his master the Ordru-Jahad.

Usagi Yojimno had Lord Hikaji,Lord Hebi,and Jei.

Captain Marvel had the Supreame intellegance.

Thor had Loki.

Ghost rider had Mephisto.

Iron Man had the Mandarin.

Punisher had Jigsaw

Daredevil had Kingpin

Spider-Woman had Morgan le fay

Etrigan had Morgan Le Fay

Justice League and Justice socity had Vandal Savage and Darkseid,

Avengers had Thanos,Ultron,and Kang

Doctor Strange had Dormammu

Teen titans had Deathstroke and Trigon

Legion of Super-heroes had the fatal five and Legion of Super-villains.

Spider-Man 2099 had Tyler Stone

Batman Beyond had Blight

Icon and Staic had Holocaust

Tmnt had the Shredder.

Judge Dredd had Judge Death

Swamp Thing had Anton Arcane

The Atom had Chronos.

Silver Surfer had Galactus.

Hulk had The Leader and Abomination.

Green Lantern had Sinsestro.

Aquaman had Ocean Master and Black Manta.

The Darkness had The Angelous.

Witchblade had Kenneth Irons and The Curator/Survivor.


Basically the one who is the most prominant arch-nemesis would be the big bad but sometimes not always the case. The arch-enemy dosen't always have to be one either they can be two or three.

With such series like for example Spawn it's more easy as Malebolgia,Mammon,and Satan all were the Primary Antagonists as they were the rulers of Hell.

 

[Antvasima]

Not all of your examples are accurate, but many of them are. However, I am too tired to list all of the errors and to argue about it.

 

[Gamma_Venom_567]

Whatever I am just suprised that most of the comic book heroe's arch-enemy is not a primary antagonist like Lex Luthor or Magneto.

Lex Luthor was the leader of many villain groups like the Legion of Doom and Injustice League.

and Professor Zomm despite being Barry's most well known arch-foe hasn't been added to the Primary antagonist category.

Mister Mind is the most dangerous foe to the Shazam family as a whole while each member of the Shazam family had their own arch-enemy Billy having Doctor Sivana and Black Adam,Freddy having Captain Nazi and Thaddus Sivana jr,and Mary having Geogoria Sivana, the the family as whole it is Misted Mind as he is the villain that threatens the group as a whole.

Heck Red Skull was the arch-enemy of Captain America and somehow he wasn't added?

 

[Antvasima]

Well, it isn't particularly important, so I suppose that nobody got around to it.

 

[Antvasima]

I will add the "Primary Antagonists" category to the following character pages with my automated script:

Malebolgia

Red Skull

Lex Luthor (Post-Crisis)

Brainiac

General Zod (Post-Crisis)

Apocalypse (Marvel Comics)

Doctor Octopus

Norman Osbor

Professor Zoom (Post-Crisis)

Circe (Post-Crisis)

Ares (DC Comics)

Doctor Doom

Joker

Ra's Al Ghul

Loki (Marvel Comics) (Classic)

Mephisto (Marvel Comics)

Mandari

Kingpin (Marvel Comics)

Darkseid

Thanos (Marvel Comics)

Ultron (Marvel Comics)

Dormammu (Classic)

Deathstroke (Post-Crisis)

Trigon (Post-Crisis)

Mordru

Time Trapper

Shredder (80's)

Shredder (2012)

Shredder (4Kids)

Black Manta (Post-Flashpoint)

The Angelus (Comic)

We either do not have pages for your other examples, or they did not seem accurate.

 

[Antvasima]

I will add it to Mister Mind and Black Adam (Post-Crisis) as well.