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Misc Digimon Revisions lX

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Digimon Speeds Agai
Here we go again. So recently I made a thread for justifying Rel speeds Ultimate levels and Megas with regards to lightspeed. After a brief discussion with Ex, we started thinking of maybe rescaling to speed ratings.

So Kep did a nice calc for us regarding Peckmon dodging Sunflowmon's Sunshine Beam. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...on:_Peckmon_dodges_Sunflowmon's_Sunshine_Beam

This resulted in FTL speed which is consistent with all the Relativistic feats we have had. We have also decided to not use the LadyDevimon calc due to Hand of Fate being lightspeed is kinda iffy. We have decided to work around the Takumi calc that resulted in Rel. Now here is the fun. Pay close attention.

Champion level Digimo: So we know these guys are MHS+ for Agunimon's lightning dodging feat. However, we should consider that Champion level Digimon should be superior to Takumi in speed and we even see Tankmon reacting to Takumi's team along with a plethora of Champion level Digimon who aren't exactly far from the norm of Champion Digimon. Based on this I would propose Champion levels have MHS+ Movement Speed with Rel reactions/Combat Speed. With the faster ones being solid Relativistic

Ultimates
: This is a hard one. Let me first say that most Rel and FTL feats are done by Champion level Digimon. Our 2 main FTL feats are done by Agunimon and Peckmon respectively. The issue is that Ultimates as a whole can usually still tag these guys Agunimon in particular. As such general Ultimates should have Rel movement speed with FTL reactions while faster ones should be Rel+ (via scaling to Rapidmon and Rinkmon), with FTL reactions.

Megas: Generally Megas should scale to the faster Ultimates while slower ones would scale to general Ultimates. Faster or well trained Megas would be solid FTL.

That is all for that.

Royal Knight Resistances
I didn't want to deal with this and I know Reppu is sick and tired of this by now, however I do want us to be accurate and not all RK resistances are truly justified. I will name the ones I believe is at least justified. Most come from the SGDL. Let us begin.

Death Manipulation- From Lilithmon. These guys should be able to tanks Lilithmon's Phantom Pain and not instantly die but just take damage. This can be supported by Yggdrasil...maybe...

Existence Erasure- For them to combat the SGDL over and over again, they should be able to survive the SGDL's bread and butter Existence Erasure.

Soul Manipulation- Likely gained from Belphemon who iirc has Gift of Darkness that destroy the souls of those it hits.

Absolute Zero- From Omegamon. The RK constantly fight each other and Omegamon is known to spam Supreme Cannon as much a DB characters spam Ki blasts. Yet these guys can tank this. Also Absolute Zero is such a common power in Digimon, it isn't even funny or that impressive.

Possibly Mind Manipulation- I am iffy on this one. This comes from Barbamon who in character likes to Mind Control others. However, not to sure about that.

That is all. Tell me what you all think.

Help needed
I love doing these revisions as much as the next guy, but editing all these pages is hard for one person, especially when Digimon as a verse takes up a good percentage of our pages here on this entire wiki. So I truly need help with these mass edit revisions when we have them. Thatnk you.

Sorry that I did not do the Sakuyamon/Kuzuhamon stuff, but we have 2 hefty revisions here. Also I did not do the "every Digimon attacks the mind, body and soul directly" or "all Digimon resist this" revisions because Ex's internet is down and thus he could not do the blog he wants to do about it.
 
>More Digimon revisions

It never stops.

(Serious answer)

I'm fine with the speed changes.

If I recall, it's entirely in-character for the SGDL to spam their hax, yes?

I'll try and help when I have more time, and let me tell you, revising Digimon is mind-numbingly monotonous.
 
The speed changes are fine.

If they spam their Hax, then the resistence are ok as well
 
Yeah it is, the resitances posted are basically all of the main haxes of the SGDL (Especially seeing as many of them are their basic attacks). Minus absorption of course.

Trust me...I know. Revising Digimon is fun when you read the info, but utterly dull and time consuming when doing the actual edits.
 
"Time Manipulation- This comes from their natural state of being Infinite/Immeasurable"

^If we go by this, every infinite and immesurable character should get this.
 
Also, Resistance to Death Manipulation from Beelzemon's stuff?

And about the Mind manipulation, has a RK ever been brainwashed?
 
Imma suggest resistance to Fire manipulation because of Daemon and his redundancy.

Everything is fine, yes.
 
The thing is that I doubt the RK would fight Belphemon while he is in Sleep Mode as at that time, he really doesn't do anything.
 
Kill him while he's asleep.

They would fight FM Lucemon, not his Rookie or Satan mode, right?
 
Well, there you have another support for Death manipulation with Dead or Alive.
 
I forgot Dead or Alive was a 50% instant kill....You'd think the word DEAD would tip me off. Lol
 
What's with all the deleted messages?

Anyway. Most this seems fine. My only complaint is Ultimate's speeds. It's minor, but I think they should be Rel with FTL combat speed rather then Rel+ since Rapidmon is generally implied to be stupidly fast in comparison to others (I recall it going so fast it appeared invisible to WarGrowlmon at one point).

What are the resistances the RK lose? I know Concept Manipulation and I think Space-Time. I'm also iffy on them having Mind Manipulation Resistance since Barbamon has actually successfully mind and morality powers Digimon on the RKs level like the TGA.
 
I do not remember Barbamon doing this, the closest I can remember to something of the kind occurring were the Gran Dracumon events and the TGA relating it to the Black Seraphimon and Ofanimon Falldown Mode forms.


In addition, of course, Lucemon corrupting Cherubimon.
 
Darkanine said:
I'm also iffy on them having Mind Manipulation Resistance since Barbamon has actually successfully mind and morality powers Digimon on the RKs level like the TGA.
RK too op
Dukemon and Omegamon want to talk with you OVO
 
Digimon Crusader, in the opening where Angewomon summon the Tamers to solve the conflicts in Digital World. Factions went to war to decide who would control Digital World after Yggdrasil disappears. In this we see things like war between angels and demons, Four Holy Beasts, Royal Knights, etc. Then this scene occurred.

We only see this directly at the opening of the game, then all the information we have on history is in the OXII quest and special events.

Cherubimon Too Op
 
@Dark

Only the faster Ultimates would scale to Rel+, the general Ultimates are just Rel movement wise.
 
So once I get to a PC I will finish editing all the Champion level tiers. Afterwards we will proceed with the speed revisions.
 
Okay, so I've taken care of everything but the Speed Revisions. Who exactly is free right now? Right now, I am not too free.
 
Well when you get available, can you handle to Digimon Adventure 01 cast please?
 
@Ever

Tai-Wallace. You'll see their names when you go on the verse page. I gotta go.
 
To summarize;

Champion levels

General: Massively Hypersonic+ movement speed with Relativistic reaction/combat speed (Champion level Digimon should be able to at least react to early game Takumi Aiba)

Faster than normal: Relativistic (Should be able to move as fast and keep pace with Takumi)

Ultimate levels

General: Relativistic movement speed with FTL attack/reaction speed (Should be at least able to react to and fight Ikuto's Peckmon and Agunimon who can dodge light attacks)

Faster than normal: Relativistic+ movement speed (Should be comparable to Rapidmon) with FTL reaction/combat speed

Mega level

Slower than normal: Same as General Ultimates

General: Same as faster Ultimates.

Faster than normal: Solid FTL
 
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