Minor Naruto Revisions | Part 1

[Foriaa]

• Amaterasu is Fire Release.
• Amaterasu is the pinnacle of Fire Release.
• Bijuu Bombs are not Fire Release.
• Therefore, Bijuu Bombs cannot be hotter than Amaterasu.

Like your conclusion doesn't even follow , go back to the previous pages where Ama has been addressed, and understand that it's been dropped from the thread.

 

[ShadoW200720]

I want to ask a question, aren't stuff like temperature scaling supposed to have some sort of statement to back them up, like a value or stuff like that

 

[Foriaa]

There's no guideline for that, at least from what I can remember. Many other characters have had their temperature attacks calced, this isn't new.

 

[MattaGrimm]

No your using scenes of the author not drawing debris. While ignoring the one's we're he does. Visual inconveniences happen in fiction often. That's why statements exist to clarify. When he burned killer be we see vapor. His flames can be magnified by win which shouldn't happen if they were core of the sun temperatures. The imagine I sent shows the vapor coming of the flames. Even the databook says it turns to ash . The narrative does not support your interpretation at all

It does. If the pinnacle of fire ninjustu is vaporization. Then bijuu bombs are not above that in heat. Bijuu bombs aren't even fire ninjustu to begin with it's super dense chakra.

Have you read through this thread at all to understand the context?

 

[DavidTPPM]

5 pages of straight NOTHING is insane

 

[Foriaa]

Genuinely.

 

[ShadoW200720]

No problem, just wanted to clarify, thanks

There's no guideline for that, at least from what I can remember. Many other characters have had their temperature attacks calced, this isn't new.

 

[ichimojii]

• Amaterasu is Fire Release.
• Amaterasu is the pinnacle of Fire Release.
• Bijuu Bombs are not Fire Release.
• Therefore, Bijuu Bombs cannot be hotter than Amaterasu.

Like your conclusion doesn't even follow , go back to the previous pages where Ama has been addressed, and understand that it's been dropped from the thread.

What are you on about? Amaterasu can burn the 8 tails who can tank bijuu bombs. Bijuu bombs constantly leave behind dust and vapor. God tier characters are constantly threaten by lava. Toneri was even burned by the sun's rays.

 

[Foriaa]

Is this not just repeating talking points that have already been addressed multiple times while introducing points that aren't even relevant to this thread?

Amaterasu burning Gyuki is one piece of evidence supporting a high heat output. I've already acknowledged that. My point is that the overwhelming majority of Amaterasu's appearances do not visually support that level of heat, which is why I don't think it outweighs the preponderance of the evidence.

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I want to point out that this user is derailing the thread and arguing against a position I never made by bringing up Toneri, who has zero relevance to this discussion.
Not only that, but they're also misinterpreting the scene. Toneri was not burned simply by the Sun's heat. His body began to fail because he absorbed the Sun's energy beyond what his body can handle.

 

[ichimojii]

Is this not just repeating talking points that have already been addressed multiple times while introducing points that aren't even relevant to this thread?

Amaterasu burning Gyuki is one piece of evidence supporting a high heat output. I've already acknowledged that. My point is that the overwhelming majority of Amaterasu's appearances do not visually support that level of heat, which is why I don't think it outweighs the preponderance of the evidence.

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I want to point out that this user is derailing the thread and arguing against a position I never made by bringing up Toneri, who has zero relevance to this discussion.
Not only that, but they're also misinterpreting the scene. Toneri was not burned simply by the Sun's heat. His body began to fail because he absorbed the Sun's energy beyond what his body can handle.

Stated and shown he's also being burned. Basic reading comprehension

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Stated and shown he's also being burned. Basic reading comprehension

Are you not able to understand that he was fragile as in his body was failing him as in he was unable handle the power of the sun which surprise surprise is the radiation that is emitted from the sun which in turn carries energy that can manifest in multiple forms one of which being heat energy

To give you an example that you will only understand, think of ichigo using his mungetsu then being deprived of his soul until his on the verge of collapse. This is the state toneri is, so even it did burn his ass it only applies to a super weak almost dying can’t do anything mode. Which I am sure you can deduce that it’s not applicable as an anti feat in any capacity

 

[Foriaa]

Stated and shown he's also being burned. Basic reading comprehension

Rather than being condescending, could you actually click on the image I linked, read it, and then respond?

 

[Testarossa002]

Bijuu are generally shown resisting their own output + heat :

• The Juubi flicking away Gyuki's BB
• The Juubi no selling his own BB
• Gyuki no selling his own BB
• Son Gokū and Kokuō discharging BB's point blank

It'd be better if you remove this line of scaling from the OP
Like I said in my initial post, none of these guys actually no sell a bijuu bomb
If it's still there, then the amaterasu becomes a sort of anti-feat (even if it's really not)

God tier characters are constantly threaten by lava

Can you site any instance of the relevant characters to this thread (Full Otsutsuki, Madara and Sasuke PS, Hashirama's Wood style and A3) being threatened by lava?

Toneri was even burned by the sun's rays.

No cloak/tenseigan Toneri? What's his relevance to this thread?
Atp, you're just throwing anything to see what sticks

 

[Foriaa]

then the amaterasu becomes a sort of anti-feat (even if it's really not)

It doesn't. I agree that ama can burn Gyuki. I simply said that the vast majority of its showings aren't consistent, which is why I don't think we can use it to argue either for or against my points. The points been dropped a long time ago.

 

[Floxy178]

Can we please stop bringing up amaterasu unless someone properly responds to David's posts about it? At this point it's more like amaterasu upscale rather than its lowball being a capping temp.

 

[Antvasima]

I was asked to close this thread so it can be remade with easier to understand arguments. Is that a good idea?

 

[Aytugsss]

I was asked to close this thread so it can be remade with easier to understand arguments. Is that a good idea?

This man gives Ubuyashiki vibes

 

[Antvasima]

Meaning what exactly? That I am trying to be as nice and respectful as I am able, and learn from Enlightened Masters, while still dealing with anger issues about all of the genuinely evil people in this world?

 

[Foriaa]

Ubuyashiki is a character from KnY. He’s a gentle, well composed person who is exceptionally empathetic. He remembered every individual member who died fighting for him and visited all of their graves despite being terminally ill. His speech and presence can even soothe hostile people. I think Aytugsss was complimenting you.

 

[Aytugsss]

Meaning what exactly? That I am trying to be as nice and respectful as I am able, and learn from Enlightened Masters, while still dealing with anger issues about all of the genuinely evil people in this world?

Do you know who is kagaya ubuyishiki is?
I wrote it assuming you knew. İ mean you gives vibe of ubuyashiki in a good way

 

[Aytugsss]

Ubuyashiki is a character from KnY. He’s a gentle, well composed person who is exceptionally empathetic. He remembered every individual member who died fighting for him and visited all of their graves despite being terminally ill. His speech and presence can even soothe hostile people. I think Aytugsss was complimenting you.

Thank you

 

[Antvasima]

Oh. Thank you very much for the compliment in that case. I looked up his wiki profile page after your comment, and saw the similarities that I mentioned above.

I am dealing with trying to generally be nice, helpful, and respectful, and to gradually spiritually evolve, while still being very judgementally morally outraged about all of the different types of atrocities performed by evil people, and also being too oversexualised/attracted to beautiful women, so I am extremely far from perfect.

 

[Aytugsss]

Oh. Thank you very much for the compliment in that case. I looked up his wiki profile page after your comment, and saw the similarities that I mentioned above.

I am dealing with trying to generally be nice, helpful, and respectful, and to gradually spiritually evolve, while still being very judgementally morally outraged about all of the different types of atrocities performed by evil people, and also being too oversexualised/attracted to beautiful women, so I am extremely far from perfect.

Your welcom
Dw nobody is perfect

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you again.

 

[Foriaa]

was asked to close this thread so it can be remade with easier to understand arguments. Is that a good idea?

The people in here told me off site to remake the thread, it should be fine.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I will close this thread then. Thank you to everybody who helped out here.