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I have issues with the grammar under some of his justifications, but otherwise, it seems good
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@MARVEL_Future_Fight_Gamer
Would you be willing to fix the grammar, structure, and spelling errors that you noticed in the draft page linked to above?
Would you be willing to fix the grammar, structure, and spelling errors that you noticed in the draft page linked to above?
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Looks good, I think Knull should be far higher than 2-A though
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I agree with Transcending.
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Looks good, but how is surviving a big bang only "likely resistance to heat"? It should be heat, matter, quantum, antimatter, and space resistance
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I think so, yes.
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I would appreciate if somebody else with good spelling and grammar skills tries to make appropriate corrections to the page in question as well.
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Also I think Thor might have been CKT against Knull
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Cosmic King Thor
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I basically already did, though
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Why?
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Yes
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Due to this scan, plus it would be more consistent with Knull's statements like being able to end everything.
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Thank you for helping out.
Is there anything else that needs to be corrected in the Knull page draft, or should it be applied now?
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Having the powers of a herald of Galactus added to the Odinforce wouldn't make much comparative difference in Thor's current scale of power. It basically just healed his arm, and that was it.
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Hmm, but from what I know, shortly after the King in Black event, Thor went back to Asgard to beat Fin Fang Foom who was infected by symbiotes and invading, then party and chill, not continue helping Galactus devour planets to beat the Black Winter, after which he completely lost the Power Cosmic
Also, while Thor was partying in Asgard, BRB mentions the events of the Donald Blake arc, which happen after Thor lost the Power Cosmic to kill the BW
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Hmm, well I still think Knull has many things implying a higher rating.
1: Knull's pet survives a weapon made to kill the Phoenix
2: Threat to all creation
3: Coming to end everything
4: Threat to all space and time
5: End of all things
6: Unlike anything the heroes had ever seen before
7: Unlike anything Thor had faced before
8: Slit the throat of creation
9: Etched a scar in the firmament
There's also his huge fight with Silver Surfer who was amped by the entire cosmos.
1: Knull's pet survives a weapon made to kill the Phoenix
2: Threat to all creation
3: Coming to end everything
4: Threat to all space and time
5: End of all things
6: Unlike anything the heroes had ever seen before
7: Unlike anything Thor had faced before
8: Slit the throat of creation
9: Etched a scar in the firmament
There's also his huge fight with Silver Surfer who was amped by the entire cosmos.
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All creation can easily mean the local universe or an infinite number of universes, and The Phoenix hosts have very variable power levels.
We are definitely not unreasonably upgrading Knull without any extremely reliable feats to scale from based on hyperbolic rule of cool flowery speech alone. Sorry.
We are definitely not unreasonably upgrading Knull without any extremely reliable feats to scale from based on hyperbolic rule of cool flowery speech alone. Sorry.
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Why is it hyperbolic?
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Because that is the way that most western superhero stories work in terms of language. The writers cannot engage the readers by stating that it is technically just another Tuesday in terms of doomsday threats for the Marvel superheroes, so just move along, nothing to see here.
We can scale Knull from Thor and regular Celestials though, but those are all of the reliable feats that we have for him.
We can scale Knull from Thor and regular Celestials though, but those are all of the reliable feats that we have for him.
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Thank you, fixed it
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I think Knull should also get NEP, based on him confirming he is the entire void, stating he is the void, and due to him being stated to be a creature of pure and utter blackness.
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How is him scaling above a Silver Surfer with the power of the entire cosmos not reliable? That was an actual feat, not a statement
Marvel universes are not 4D. Plus this doesn't address my other points.
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The Silver Surfer absorbing power from the local universe, but not remotely all of it or it would have disappeared, is not remotely reliable scaling for even 3-A, much less something beyond 2-A.
Again, we can only scale from Knull's actual feats of fighting and beating Celestials and damaging Skyfather Thor by taking him by surprise from behind. We cannot mess up our entire scaling chains to unreliable degrees (since Thor and all other similarly powerful characters would have to be upgraded as well) just because you are relentlessly argumentative and upgrade-hungry.
I am firmly rejecting what you suggest here, so it is unlikely to be accepted.
Again, we can only scale from Knull's actual feats of fighting and beating Celestials and damaging Skyfather Thor by taking him by surprise from behind. We cannot mess up our entire scaling chains to unreliable degrees (since Thor and all other similarly powerful characters would have to be upgraded as well) just because you are relentlessly argumentative and upgrade-hungry.
I am firmly rejecting what you suggest here, so it is unlikely to be accepted.
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Basically, if Knull was a genuine threat to the entire multiverse, he would have gone the Mikaboshi route of actually destroying it, not just have invaded a single planet. His 2-A tier is generous enough as it is, as The Celestials were not remotely portrayed at this scale of power in the story in question.
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Sure.
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