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Title, and DBS included.
Gauntlet style.
How far does she get?
Gauntlet style.
How far does she get?
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Michael (Bastard!!) vs. DBZ.
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I say she solos till the end of cell saga/ majin buu because she can no longer damage them but they still can't hit her.
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She's also a tad bit more durable than most of their DCs.SomebodyStupid said:
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Honestly she can make it to the Buu Saga. The speed and hax is gonna win her a lot of fights. She definitely stops at DB Super due to how ridiculous their power shot up lol.
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A "tad"? There is a giant difference
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T'was being sarcastic. There's a massive difference- she'd be somewhat like a lightning pebble (If that fits the term) to them.SomebodyStupid said:
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Her hax and speed advantage takes her up to DBS
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I say she stops at Veggeto
Michael is 7000c
SSJ Veggeto should be comparable
SSJ Goku is 28c according to SDZ's calc and this is ignoring his zenkai and many other things, assuming base Veggeto is as fast as SSJ Goku (Which is MASSIVE lowball) and that the SSJ4 multiplier is 40x he is 1120c. This is ignoring the SSJ2-3 multipliers, Goku's namek zenkai, all of the speed training, etc.
Michael is 7000c
SSJ Veggeto should be comparable
SSJ Goku is 28c according to SDZ's calc and this is ignoring his zenkai and many other things, assuming base Veggeto is as fast as SSJ Goku (Which is MASSIVE lowball) and that the SSJ4 multiplier is 40x he is 1120c. This is ignoring the SSJ2-3 multipliers, Goku's namek zenkai, all of the speed training, etc.
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Wouldn't her durability and hax still get past him?FanofRPGs said:
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SSJ Vegito is equal in power to SSJ4 Goku... He should be about galaxy... if i remember correctly, so durability no
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When was that stated?SomebodyStupid said:
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Here's the thing- she's Small Galaxy Level+ in durability- Vegito's only Multi Solar System+, he can't damage her.FanofRPGs said:
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Hmm
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This is when KO is a viable way to win.
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How so?The Everlasting said:
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Simple.
Even if Michael is too durable to be killed by the cast of Z (Though I think SSJ3 Vegito can do her in), she could just be KO'd.
Even if Michael is too durable to be killed by the cast of Z (Though I think SSJ3 Vegito can do her in), she could just be KO'd.
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She solos imo, nobody in DBZ is fast or strong enough to put her down
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How could she be KOed?The Everlasting said:
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She's intangible and she's got immortality types 1,3 and 4 not seeing anyone in the verse killing her or K.O her either for that matter.
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By being hit by an attack hard enough to knock her out.
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Even with her regen?The Everlasting said:
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You do know regen can't fix being knocked out right?
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How would they get to knock her out in the first place, exactly?The Everlasting said:
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Good question, I see she has type 4 immortality. Wouldn't that prevent KO? I mean nobody in DBZ has ever KO smoebody with type 4 immortality. Majin Buu is only type 3. It would be like giving them feats which they don't haveImagoDesattrolante said:
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By just hitting her with a hard enough attack...
Type 4 Immortality is hard to judge in terms of its effectiveness.
Type 4 Immortality is hard to judge in terms of its effectiveness.
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How would they do that in the first place? She's got very high stamina as well, so I think she could stay up.The Everlasting said:
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Intanbility prevents the knockout. They can't touch her and even if they could they would need to bypass thousands of shields regenerating at FTL speeds on the atomic lvl(dispel bound).
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That is assuming that attack would work effectively on anybody who's above type 3. Majin Buu's type 3 isn't the best either, it's just molecular regen. There are type 3 wth subatomic regen. So it's just low-mid tier type 3. DBZ can't affect beyond that.
Them affecting type 4 without feats seems like abit of stretch, it's like type 4 doesn't matter at all. If type 4 doesn't matter then DBZ might win
Them affecting type 4 without feats seems like abit of stretch, it's like type 4 doesn't matter at all. If type 4 doesn't matter then DBZ might win
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Like I said earlier she makes it to the Buu Saga and probably clears but stops at DBS.
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I think so too. I dont see anybody in DBZ beating her. I mean Majin Buu's just low type 3 and they dont' have any feat of affecting higher than that, let alone type 4 and intangibility. Not even taking speed into account (7000x quantifiable vs barely FTL with multipliers which are not linear)Oblivion00 said:
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Is this a tie...?
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Can she kill people with Victory Rainbow Rising (like judas priest)? It says it can destroy atoms. Nobody in DBZ has atomic disintegration resistanceImagoDesattrolante said:
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If you guys are basing these responses based off of Michaels small galaxy level durability, then don't. Her durability should be somewhere within the star level range in actuality.
However, due to her speed and eternal atoms, she can't be killed by anyone in Z, but she cant kill stronger opponents later on at the same time. Best bet would be a KO assuming they can even hit her.
However, due to her speed and eternal atoms, she can't be killed by anyone in Z, but she cant kill stronger opponents later on at the same time. Best bet would be a KO assuming they can even hit her.
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She's star level in durability...? How?Sheoth said:
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Can't she kill with Victory Rainbow Rising which ignores durability like Judas Priest?Sheoth said:
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She's SOMETHING in durability, certainly not small Galaxy level. Star level is the best guess I can make right now.Sheoth said:
How is she not small galaxy level? She has perfect reasoning to be.
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She's star level in durability...? She's SOMETHING in durability, certainly not small Galaxy level. Star level is the best guess I can make right now.
How is she not small galaxy level?
By surviving Darsh and Uriel's clash. However, she had a shield over her formed by Darsh that all the other humans had as well, so saying that she has small Galaxy level durability is like saying that every human on earth is as well.
How is she not small galaxy level?
By surviving Darsh and Uriel's clash. However, she had a shield over her formed by Darsh that all the other humans had as well, so saying that she has small Galaxy level durability is like saying that every human on earth is as well.
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She's SOMETHING in durability, certainly not small Galaxy level. Star level is the best guess I can make right now.How is she not small galaxy level? By surviving Darsh and Uriel's clash. However, she had a shield over her formed by Darsh that all the other humans had as well, so saying that she has small Galaxy level durability is like saying that every human on earth is as well.Sheoth said:
Can I have the scan, again? If so, why didn't the calculation say so?
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