MHS FT?(spoilers)

[Kaisaizx]

Seems Irene likes to play with rocks

https://imgur.com/a/wDFGS

Given this is confirmed to be from space it should give some decent results even lowballing the planet size to that of Earth's.

 

[AidenBrooks999]

Interesting.


I was working on some upgrades for FT.

And, i was thinking, could August scale from Laxus' attack speed? This would also scale to Irene

 

[Kaisaizx]

I was actually working on a calc about August just before this came out

 

[Bills1992]

Spoiler said Irene Meteor can destroy full Earth land(only Fiora is large Contient lvl by feats from this site)...

It this means this Meteor lvl is small moon/moon or small planet lvl??

 

[AidenBrooks999]

I was actually working on a calc about August just before this came out

What calc?

 

[AidenBrooks999]

Spoiler said Irene Meteor can destroy full Earth land(only Fiora is large Contient lvl by feats from this site)...
It this means this Meteor lvl is small moon/moon or small planet lvl??

Lol!


No.

 

[AidenBrooks999]

Maybe she shouldn't scale.


She said that is a version superior to jellal's


I don't Jellal beinf scale from his Sema. Is like if we scale Goku's speed to how fast does the energy of the Spirit Bomb travels

 

[Bills1992]

Spoiler said Irene Meteor can destroy full Earth land(only Fiora is large Contient lvl by feats from this site)...
It this means this Meteor lvl is small moon/moon or small planet lvl??

Lol!


No.

Sry this site mean is Large Country/small Continent lvl.

If only Fiora Large Country, how are big the other countrys??

Here earthland:

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And here the calc from this site:

User blogontTalk/Area of Fiore - Fairy tail calc

Look at Earth land, this is easily small moon or moon lvl in dc, in spoiler Irene said the meteor destroy full Earth land.

 

[Kaisaizx]

Calling the minimum speed required for August to react to Laxus's lightning from the palace

 

[AidenBrooks999]

Calling the minimum speed required for August to react to Laxus's lightning from the palace

Calc stacking.


Is way better to direct scale from Laxus lightning, since August was the only one to react so far, even Ajeel was unable to.

 

[AidenBrooks999]

Bills1992: Snip
I saw all the translations for the feat, none mentions what you're saying. Also, even if so.... No, simply is a false argument, or directly an outlier

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

Wow..... this is quite a buff. And frankly I think the hi to god tiers should easily scale to Laxus considering he does actually turn into lightning and utilizes actual lightning.

 

[AidenBrooks999]

Wow..... this is quite a buff. And frankly I think the hi to god tiers should easily scale to Laxus considering he does actually turn into lightning and utilizes actual lightning.

No buff and Laxus' lightning is not real lightning

 

[Kaisaizx]

Calling the minimum speed required for August to react to Laxus's lightning from the palace

Calc stacking.


Is way better to direct scale from Laxus lightning, since August was the only one to react so far, even Ajeel was unable to.

Not using the calc results, using various percentiles of the actual speed of lightning, using half the speed as a high end

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

Wow..... this is quite a buff. And frankly I think the hi to god tiers should easily scale to Laxus considering he does actually turn into lightning and utilizes actual lightning.

No buff and Laxus' lightning is not real lightning

This isn't acceptable? How so? Well, gotta wait for the latest chapter to be translated first.

And he did actually use a lightning bolt as an attack before. Several ones from the sky in fact. About a couple of times too.

 

[AidenBrooks999]

Magical lightning/real lightning


With that logic we should have Relativistic Natsu via dodging sting magic

 

[AidenBrooks999]

Not using the calc results, using various percentiles of the actual speed of lightning, using half the speed as a high end

Again: Magical Lightning =/= Real Lightning

 

[AidenBrooks999]

This isn't acceptable? How so? Well, gotta wait for the latest chapter to be translated first.

Did you even read the comments?


Attack Speed =/= Combat Speed


Jellal is not High Hypersonic from his meteor

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

That logic makes sense and all and I heavily agree with it but in Laxus' profile isn't his speed noted as that because of a calc that actually shows actual lightning from the cloud reaching bullets before it could hit him?

Also my main question is why this feat up there isn't acceptable.


Also whacha talking about, Relativistic Natsu works well with that FTL Gildarts calc some guy made :^ )

 

[AidenBrooks999]

Because no translation confirms what Bills1992 said


And the speed from it wouldn't scale to anyone

 

[Kaisaizx]

Which is why I would use the percentiles to show the difference

 

[AidenBrooks999]

Which is why I would use the percentiles to show the difference

That's even more unreasonable

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

Oh well of course, naturally we're going to have to wait for the actual chapters to come out. And yeah I was speaking more hyopthethically if it was accepted but yeah in that case you're right. I didn't really word my phrase properly.

 

[Kaisaizx]

Sorry but I don't see the quote button, Anyway I don't see why using percentiles is unreasonable, we cannot equate his lightning to real lighting, assuming it's at best half the speed and at most an eighth seems a pretty good range for an approximate result. You have a Hypersonic, high Hypersonic and low end massively Hypersonic result which is consistent with the verses current range

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

I'm sorry but did Irene just pull a Madara?

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

Personally I thought it was a Gremmy

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Also when did she become a Dragon??????? I am sooo behind.....

 

[Joseph619]

Personally I thought it was a Gremmy

And I thought it was a Fujitora

 

[Czuczian11]

Theese are spoiler pics from upcoming chapter (most likely full information about any feat perfrormed there will be accesible during Monday) Also I thnk retransforming into Dragon wouldn't be impossible for mage with such power as Irene.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Actually it is more like this https://youtu.be/gnJUI77I96U?t=53

But is anything gonna come from this at this point in time? The translation is not even available yet is it?

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

Then let's just leave this thread and wait for it to pop up then. Better that way.

 

[AidenBrooks999]

Sorry but I don't see the quote button,
Anyway I don't see why using percentiles is unreasonable, we cannot equate his lightning to real lighting, assuming it's at best half the speed and at most an eighth seems a pretty good range for an approximate result. You have a Hypersonic, high Hypersonic and low end massively Hypersonic result which is consistent with the verses current range

Like if i assume that Sting's attacks are 1/4 SoL because reasons


There's no reason to assume speed randomly just for really forced upgrade

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

Typically I'd be more inclined to agree with that, if not for the fact that some of his lightning do come from the sky and that with this upcoming feat, this meteor like attack being for hi tiers. I'm surprised Jellal doesn't have that speed either.

 

[AidenBrooks999]

this meteor like attack being for hi tiers. I'm surprised Jellal doesn't have that speed either.

Is like I say that Base Goku is MFTL+ because of the Spirit Bomb


Or even like if Human were Supersonic+ from shooting bullets


Is simply attack speed. Is not hard to know the difference

 

[Primaris_Brian]

Spoiler
Lol did erza just become one punch man. xD

edit: forgot my own spoiler code..

 

[Primaris_Brian]

Btw this seems legit.

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

this meteor like attack being for hi tiers. I'm surprised Jellal doesn't have that speed either.

Is like I say that Base Goku is MFTL+ because of the Spirit Bomb

Or even like if Human were Supersonic+ from shooting bullets


Is simply attack speed. Is not hard to know the difference

Err... that's exactly what I'm going for.... They have MHS attack speed because they have an MHS attack. Very few people (namely hi tiers) scale to and it's not an outlieresque thing considering how many other gi tiers have it.

But I've already seen the treatment to FT so it's really an uphill battle to prove anything else.

Edit - Or am I seriously misunderstanding something here?...

 

[Primaris_Brian]

Including natsu and gray too?

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

I'm not scaling them. I'm just pointing out that Laxus has an MHS attack. Then again my wording on hi tiers is aimed only at the really hi tiers so probably better to stick with calling em god tiers.

 

[Kaisaizx]

Like if i assume that Sting's attacks are 1/4 SoL because reasons


There's no reason to assume speed randomly just for really forced upgrade

The difference being Sting doesn't have a Laser that could be could be considered to act in anyway like an actual laser And secondly The result wouldn't vastly exceed the verse's current standing, and the assumed values are well within logical assumption for the verse as it stands.