Methuselah's AP and Durability Upgrades

[Infera28]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Infera28/Methuselah's_durability

now i asked for calculation evaluation

 

[Infera28]

Alright i will create a new blog soon. then what do you think fits better as new explanation for Meth durability also shouldn't his striking strength be varies or unknown?

Mention how Meth embodies the totality of his mystery.

someone told me a attack potency like this fits better for Methuselah. what do you think

Attack Potency: Planet level (Capable of crumbling world) | Varies. At least Large Planet level with Jaws of Darkness, likely far higher (He embodies the mystery of all nights from the time of Mercurius to 1944, including his time loops, with their numbers being in the decillions at least. A single night's mystery requires the destruction of half the planet, and Methuselah can create Jaws of darkness with a density of a hundred nights. Can trade blows with Wilhelm after he temporarily became an Einherjar, and who is capable of shattering his Jaws of Darkness), can bypass durability in many ways

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Tier: 5-B | Varies. At least 5-A with Jaws of Darkness, likely far higher

 

[Warren_Valion]

You shouldn't have it like that.

1. That implies that it is two seperate keys, which it isn't.

2. The "crumble the world" statement is done by hax, not AP. Meth crumbles the world be stripping the world of his darkness leaving a void where that darkness rests causing the planet to die - that's also why if Meth is killed and erased, the earth will be destroyed as well.

So you shouldn't have a 5-B tier.

 

[Lenus010]

uh... all of Methuselah's attacks are done through hax, including Jaws of darkness, so its pretty weird to exclude a blatant planet level statement due to "being hax" but every ability that the character has is being done through hax, and before "well JOD have a density, so its different" it really wouldn't since they were borne from Meth's mastery of darkness and its concept, they are both feats done due to his ability of manipulating darkness so why is one accepted to be AP and the other isn't?

 

[Warren_Valion]

uh... all of Methuselah's attacks are done through hax, including Jaws of darkness, so its pretty weird to exclude a blatant planet level statement due to "being hax" but every ability that the character has is being done through hax, and before "well JOD have a density, so its different" it really wouldn't since they were borne from Meth's mastery of darkness and its concept, they are both feats done due to his ability of manipulating darkness so why is one accepted to be AP and the other isn't?

Meth's Jaws of Darkness is him condensing hundreds of his nights into a jaw-like structure and punching people with it.

It acts as a physical force.


Meth's ability to destroy the world that is mentioned in that scan is caused by removing a concept from the world causing the planet to collapse.

To give a human example, the JoD is like Meth punching a building down. Meth stripping the world of his darkness is like Meth knocking down the support of a building so the building comes crashing down.


They aren't the same - one is AP, the other is conceptual hax. There is a difference.

 

[Randomlamdom]

kool

 

[Antvasima]

Is there anything left to do here, or should we close this thread?

 

[Infera28]

Is there anything left to do here, or should we close this thread?

we need to linking a calculation to one of profiles. so i made calculation and asked for evaluation. after that CRT would be finished

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. If you get no reply, you can ask a few calc group members directly instead.

 

[Infera28]

so one of calc members considered Methuselah's durability as multiplier rather than calculation. seeing no one had any disagreement with Methuselah's multiplier/durability being multi galaxy lvl in this topic. we can link calc to his profile now? or i should ask a another calc member?

 

[Antvasima]

You should ask Mr. Bambu to comment in the blog again via his message wall.

 

[Infera28]

bump. well i guess calculation got accepted. according to Mr. Bambu

"If the context is accepted in verse then this looks fine"

and context got accepted in this thread. i added calculation to Methuselah's profile too. so now we can close this thread and Methuselah's profile.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thank you for the help.

I will lock the Methuselah profile, and close this thread then.