Mercurius (Dies Irae) vs The strongest character in Warhammer 40k.

[Maxnumb231]

Give your argument pls and thank you.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Ynnead

 

[Maxnumb231]

Ynnead

How so?

 

[Schnee_One]

Mercuries rips

 

[KingPin0422]

Honestly, even if this was Ynnead we were using, I'm pretty sure Mercurius would stomp hard.

Ynnead is only above one level of 1-A, whereas Mercurius is above 90 levels of 1-A.

It doesn't help that Mercurius has a major hax advantage.

 

[Maxnumb231]

So far its

2-1 (mercurius leading)

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Never said Ynnead would win just that he was the strongest

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

"Ynnead is only above one level of 1-A, whereas Mercurius is above 90 levels of 1-A."

This is not really how either of them work.

 

[Maxnumb231]

"Ynnead is only above one level of 1-A, whereas Mercurius is above 90 levels of 1-A."
This is not really how either of them work.

what's your opinion on this battle between mercurius and Ynnead

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

I don't know enough about either to say (because I have not read the majority of Masadaverse stuff and because Ynnead is purposefully left very vague, for the time being), but Mercurius should be "stronger".

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

I'm actually kinda curious what GW is planning on doing with Ynnead...

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Yo Azzy, you've left me hanging on messages I sent you on your wall.

 

[Maxnumb231]

Keep feeding me with diffferent opinions xd

 

[Maxnumb231]

"because Ynnead is purposefully left very vague, for the time being."
wdym by this?

 

[Wokistan]

Inb4 eldar mythology is wrong, slan kills ynnead like the others, becomes strongest chaos god, solos imperium and the other 3, retcons malal into existence

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

>Retcons Malal into existence

That would backfire horribly.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Yo Azzy, you've left me hanging on messages I sent you on your wall.

Blame wikia.

Link me.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Last post

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Inb4 eldar mythology is wrong, slan kills ynnead like the others, becomes strongest chaos god, solos imperium and the other 3, retcons malal into existence

Slaanesh being stronger than Khorne? I can live with that.

 

[Wokistan]

Wasn't tzeench a bit above in non fantasy? Unless I'm thinking of with the staff. Anyways, this is kinda derailed, but Merc should be stronger by a pretty significant margin with ynnead being as it is now.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Yeah tzeentch is canonically the strongest but he's more a troll while khorne is just "KILL EVERYTHING"

Also merc for reasons above

 

[Dziga]

For what I can see, Ynnead is vaguely superior to baseline 1-A. Mercurius has 90 Taikyoku. Having 2 Taikyoku already makes you strong enough to stomp someone with 1.

 

[Wokistan]

Iirc it took 10 taikyouku to for the difference in power to become truly insurmountable, and with smaller differences it's only incredibly difficult. That puts him at approx 9 infinities above baseline, unless dies irae actually doesn't work like that.

 

[Archaron]

Ynnead is only above one level of 1-A, whereas Mercurius is above 90 levels of 1-A.

I think, the system does not work that way, no, man.

 

[Dziga]

Iirc it took 10 taikyouku to for the difference in power to become truly insurmountable, and with smaller differences it's only incredibly difficult. That puts him at approx 9 infinities above baseline, unless dies irae actually doesn't work like that.

Nope. One Taikyoku of difference and you have a stomp.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Then yeah. Haven't played the game but then he solos 40K.

Crap, now what do I do with my miniatures ovo

 

[Eganergo]

Merc can one shot nerose satanael who has 80 taikyou. He stomp hard ynnead whose probably has 1 or 2 taikyou value.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

2 or 10 based on what I'm reading about the game

 

[Dziga]

Merc can one shot nerose satanael who has 90 taikyou. He stomp hard ynnead whose probably has 1 or 2 taikyou value.

Satanel had 80 Taikyoku.

 

[Eganergo]

Ups typo. Yeah i mean 80.

 

[Maxnumb231]

So far its Mercurius: 4 Ynnead: 1 inconclusive: 1

 

[Dziga]

I'm pretty sure no one voted for Ynnead.

 

[VoidGoji]

Mercurius stomps hard. Difference of only one Taikyoku equals a complete transcendence in relation to the lower one's world with all if is law, effects and concepts. Mercurius has 90.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

pretty much merc FRA. Don't know fairness but eh if it is fair then yeah

 

[ALRF]

Why the heck are you guys FRA for something as obvious as being a stomp?

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Mein Gott there is so much wrong with this thread.

 

[ALRF]

Mein Gott there is so much wrong with this thread.

My ass is itching me ever since i saw this thread.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

My ass is itching me ever since i saw this thread.

This is an appropriate response.

 

[ALRF]

Iirc it took 10 taikyouku to for the difference in power to become truly insurmountable, and with smaller differences it's only incredibly difficult. That puts him at approx 9 infinities above baseline, unless dies irae actually doesn't work like that.

I hope this is the last time i correct this.

No it doesn't work like that.

Having a Taikyoku of lower value than the opposing God will make you an utter bitch to him. Your existence is irrelevant to him.

While the difference between two Taijis are immeasurable, you can use Shiori Kujou as evidence, as in even with infinite power, she's still nothing to a God who's Taikyoku is just 61 (Hers is 60). That's not even counting into effect those who basically curbstomps passively those with 61 Taikyoku and so on

 

[Wokistan]

You may want to change that on the verse page then. Can't read Japanese, but you're the knowledgeable one on this verse and as such I'll trust that you're correct. This is a really stompy matchup regardless.