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[MCU] SCARLET WITCH VERSUS THE SENTRY (3-1-3)

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scarlet witch key: wandavision VS the sentry key: the void equalized speed: both AP 5-C (140.6 Exatons) fight take place in new york city: distance is 100m: both sides doesn't know the other's ability: both (bloodlust): both prep, the rest SBA
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scarlet witch: The Impress, GodEarh206, Arkenis

Inconclusive: FinePoint,

the sentry: noninho, FentyBeauty, RoTt35
 
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I mean, Void does nothing except BFR people to his pocket dimension in this key, in-character, and opponents retain their stats and abilities in them.

So like, Wanda mindhaxes gg? or matterhaxes or whatever, Sentry is weird, I think the Void key is genuinely worse than the base key for like, any match whatsoever, literally all Wanda has to do is find Bob or Void.
 
The_Impress said:
So like, Wanda mindhaxes gg? or matterhaxes or whatever, Sentry is weird, I think the Void key is genuinely worse than the base key for like, any match whatsoever, literally all Wanda has to do is find Bob or Void.
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I'm sure she can do that since Agatha once took her to a past she didn't want to see when she was powerless, and could easily escape Agatha ability, so the void ability wouldn't be a big problem for her
 
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If a character is BFR'd to the void how do they get out? (For vs battle purposes) the reason the thunderbolts escaped was prior knowledge and became they were able to talk no jutsu bob
 
Kidkinsey said:
If a character is BFR'd to the void how do they get out? (For vs battle purposes) the reason the thunderbolts escaped was prior knowledge and became they were able to talk no jutsu bob
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wanda has mindhax
 
Idk about Wanda actually affecting Bob with mind hax, AoU shows it as being rather close range, and The Hex required a huge amount of build / charging

Bob definitely takes physical stats, even having the advantage depending on the scaling change, and he outranges Wanda's Magic with his Darkness. So nothing really stops him from just... trapping her in the nightmare dimension and leaving
 
This is Wandavision version of Scarlet Witch, where she doesn't have to get that close to person to use Mindhax, she can use it from a distance and she just used it on people an entire city while she was chilling at her house
 
And you forgot she used it to herd people out of the city for the fight between the Avengers and Ultron where she didn't have to get close to them, she just stood there and used it on the whole city to herd them to safety
 
I'll admit, I forgot about the Sokovia evacuation, but it brings to mind another weird weakness of Wanda's mind hax. It physically needs to travel to affect it's targets, which wouldn't work with a BFR to a pocket dimension

Yeah but Scarlet Witch's range is falling under the Kilometers range, while Void has Tens of Kilometers to possibly Planetary range.
Using the real world Annandale, New Jersey her range would be around 4 km, and Sokovia is only slightly greater at 6.4 kilometers. Meanwhile The Void is affecting the entire 50+ kilometer area of New York City

Also, her being able to even affect the Void would require her not only knowing WHO Bob even is, WHERE he is, but also breaking out of her worst memories
 
Why is the moon level reasoning in the SS reasoning? And superheating bucky's arm is in the moon reasoning but Bucky's arm is only 8-C.
 
Given that Wanda has a history of escaping inter-dimensional BFR already, plus the Mind-Hax, I imagine she will probably win this fight.
 
Well, wait a minute

There are infinite rooms in that pocket dimension of his, and Yelena only found him cuz he let himself get found by her, which is not happening here, so ain't she stuck breaking rooms instantly...forever?
 
noninho said:
Well, wait a minute

There are infinite rooms in that pocket dimension of his, and Yelena only found him cuz he let himself get found by her, which is not happening here, so ain't she stuck breaking rooms instantly...forever?
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I don't think the size of the pocket dimension matters given she has inter-dimensional travel via portals.
 
RoTt35 said:
WandaVision Scarlet Witch doesn't have dimensional portals, just her Multiverse of Madness key
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Ah, you're right, my bad.

In that case it probably comes down to who acts first.
 
The Void can instantly BFR just by pointing, and his darkness also passively expands by kilometers. As @Jason_Courne said, Scarlet Witch's mind hax in lesser keys requires the spell to travel the distance between them to affect him, although I don't remember if it worked differently in WandaVision
 
well there was the scene in episode 5 of WandaVision where she simply lifts her hand and mind controls the sword soldiers surrounding her without her visual magic effects reaching them, but they were pretty close to her tho

wanda has clairvoyance and decent range with that but it’s from using the darkhold, which she got by the end of WandaVision so that’s not a part of her standard equipment sadly

BFR is prolly enough to get her really far away from him. also he could use telekinesis to send objects in those memories towards her like he did with yelena and bob, which could make it distracting for her, so i’m leaning towards void winning via BFR

edit: actually idk anymore bc they’re like gonna be 100m away from each other meaning wanda can still reach him so ig its whoever attacks first
 
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Void FRA, also at just 100 meters I think Void's passive darkness could likely cover that distance before either of them does something
 
She can teleport. But yeah, how isn't this a stomp off BFR? I mean logically she should be capable of finding Robert inside the void and doing what the thunderbolts did to escape no? Could she not just beat him through that method? With her magic she should be far more capable of aiding him in fighting the void as well.
 
Arkenis said:
She can teleport. But yeah, how isn't this a stomp off BFR? I mean logically she should be capable of finding Robert inside the void and doing what the thunderbolts did to escape no? Could she not just beat him through that method? With her magic she should be far more capable of aiding him in fighting the void as well.
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This is moreso a question than a statement. But would she even have the NPI to interact with him? Her NPI is soul stuff, but Void's listed as being a shadow, which is a lot different. I also dunno how useful she'd be in a fight against the Void when his far stronger TK could pin her down, and he can stab (or kill) her. Same way he impaled John Walker with a piece of metal.
 
Arkenis said:
I mean logically she should be capable of finding Robert inside the void and doing what the thunderbolts did to escape no
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Key thing to remember here is that Bob wanted to be found by Yelena at some point, then they met
Until the moment where Bob wants to find Wanda, she's lost between the infinite rooms, and giving that they're BL... yeah
 
LaserPrecision said:
This is moreso a question than a statement. But would she even have the NPI to interact with him? Her NPI is soul stuff, but Void's listed as being a shadow, which is a lot different. I also dunno how useful she'd be in a fight against the Void when his far stronger TK could pin her down, and he can stab (or kill) her. Same way he impaled John Walker with a piece of metal.
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I take back the killing part. I forgot you can't die inside the Void's mindscape.
 
noninho said:
Key thing to remember here is that Bob wanted to be found by Yelena at some point, then they met
Until the moment where Bob wants to find Wanda, she's lost between the infinite rooms, and giving that they're BL... yeah
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BL?

And she has Multiversal+ with Clairvoyance (Was using the Darkhold to pinpoint alternate realities where her sons have existed).
 
noninho said:
Key thing to remember here is that Bob wanted to be found by Yelena at some point, then they met
Until the moment where Bob wants to find Wanda, she's lost between the infinite rooms, and giving that they're BL... yeah
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well didn’t bucky n the others also find bob and yelena from their own rooms? it kinda seems like everything is interconnected with bob inside the void space so she could have a chance to find him somehow

idk how that will go but i guess i’m gonna be voting the void for now
 
FentyBeauty said:
yes but she doesn’t have a range listed for that, so we don’t know if her teleport can reach far enough to let her escape or find him
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Considering her intelligence is higher than his, I believe she can find him or teleport herself out of his sight and use mindhax on him
 
LMalone22 said:
Considering her intelligence is higher than his, I believe she can find him or teleport herself out of his sight and use mindhax on him
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Void just has to look/point her to BFR, which is faster than Scarlet Witch teleporting, plus his passive darkness would just cover everything
 
LMalone22 said:
I can't remember that darkness is passive?
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That's what he was doing in NYC, covering the entire city in darkness just by existing. And since he's bloodlusted here, he wouldn't care about anything and likely use his planetary range
 
RoTt35 said:
That's what he was doing in NYC, covering the entire city in darkness just by existing. And since he's bloodlusted here, he wouldn't care about anything and likely use his planetary range
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He needs to use it on people by pointing at them before he can expand darkness, that darkness is not passive
 
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