Master Hand's Page

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

so the spheres in the great maze then are part of his own seperate universe though?

Presumably so?

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

What about things like Striking Strength, Azathoth?

No idea, but considering he can literally flick characters like Bowser and send them flying, presumably quite high.

 

[Aurasuke]

seemed more like pocket dimensions than alternate universes though in the actual game due to the size, but I suppose you can interpret it as parralel dimensions since in some space you alternate between worlds that look exactly the same.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

What about things like Striking Strength, Azathoth?

No idea, but considering he can literally flick characters like Bowser and send them flying, presumably quite high.

Oh alright. Ya know looking back at his stats just now, it seems kind of odd that he's normally only Tier 8 but tier 3 by reality warping and dying. ?

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

seemed more like pocket dimensions than alternate universes though in the actual game due to the size, but I suppose you can interpret it as parralel dimensions since in some space you alternate between worlds that look exactly the same.

I would assume Tabuu's Subspace contained its own pocket realms based on what we'd seen, or that fragments of the main universe were dragged in by the Subspace bombs the R.O.B.s were planting.

 

[Aurasuke]

What about things like Striking Strength, Azathoth?

No idea, but considering he can literally flick characters like Bowser and send them flying, presumably quite high.

Well that isn't that high considering his tier lol. How about Sonic and Mario though? Do we scale them outside of brawl during the possible Tabuu fight where you chose them?

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Oh alright. Ya know looking back at his stats just now, it seems kind of odd that he's normally only Tier 8 but tier 3 by reality warping and dying. ?

There is literally no rationale given for him being tier 8. I have no idea why he was even there. It's so random.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Oh alright. Ya know looking back at his stats just now, it seems kind of odd that he's normally only Tier 8 but tier 3 by reality warping and dying. ?

There is literally no rationale given for him being tier 8. I have no idea why he was even there. It's so random.

Mmmmm. Yeah, that also needs to be looked at and fixed.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Well that isn't that high considering his tier lol. How about Sonic and Mario though? Do we scale them outside of brawl during the possible Tabuu fight where you chose them?

You mean for fighting Tabuu?

No, because Smash is presumably non-canon/a separate continuity from every fighter's main series.

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

Was there any evidence Master Hand is superior to low 2-C characters and the like? From his defeat by the hands of Tabuu I would assume the opposite. Personally I don't think Shulk can be used to scale.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Was there any evidence Master Hand is superior to low 2-C characters and the like? From his defeat by the hands of Tabuu I would assume the opposite. Personally I don't think Shulk can be used to scale.

They're not being used to scale. They're just there as a comparison. Master Hand is at least 3-A going by his own feats. The problem is we don't know if the feat is 3-A or Low 2-C. And remember, one Low 2-C character can absolutely demolish another. It's a very, very wide tier.

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

True. Can Dialga and Palkia controlling time and space in brawl be evidence that the Smash Bros Universe has Space-Time?

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

What would happen to characters who more or less uses their Smash stats for their profiles like Captain Falcon? Would they be affected or nah?

Well considering that the Universe just ceases to exist (apparently) when he dies rather than just going empty or something, seems like 2-C would be the more likely stat.

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

Captain Falcon and similar characters defeating master hand would be deemed PIS as defeating him is more of a plot device.

A Universe ceasing to exist isn't evidence of low 2-C as there are many tier 3 characters who's attacks describe the Universe busting feat as 'nothing will remain' such as DBS characters, yet still remain as 3-A.

 

[Antvasima]

"At least 3-A. Possibly Low 2-C" by his own feats sounds reasonable.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

So are we close to fixing up MH's page thus far now?

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

I have made the appropriate edits and added "stats" for Master Core.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

I have made the appropriate edits and added "stats" for Master Core.

Saw and noted that. You think it's safe to close this now?

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

I dunno. Maybe keep it open for just a little while longer in case there are any suggestions, though I'd probably just ask Ant.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Fair enough./

 

[Antvasima]

I think that closing it seems fine.