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MASSIVE Code Lyoko Revisions

BruceTheBatman said:
Not even possibly higher since no new space-time is made
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Would a virtual universe even count as a new space-time?

I mean each of the replika's DO exist in different parts of the worldwide info. network that require the lyoko warriors to travel through "hubs" in order to get to them but i dont think that counts as a separate space-time so yea your very likely right.

I gtg to bed now but let's continue this tomorrow and wait for others input too.
 
No. XANA cannot create space-time beyond going back in time, end of story. Otherwise the Lyoko warriors could never reach it.


XANA is 3-A and nothing higher.
 
BruceTheBatman said:
No. XANA cannot create space-time beyond going back in time, end of story. Otherwise the Lyoko warriors could never reach it.
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What do you mean by this exactly? I mean your most likely right any way but Im not understaning what your meaning on this part.
 
BruceTheBatman said:
He cannot create a new time-space continuum, therefore he is only 3-A
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So basically your saying all of the Virtual Universes he created exist in the same dimension and are not separate virtual space-times then?
 
BruceTheBatman said:
Exactly right. They still exist i our world therefore they are not 2-C.
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Wait, what? Virtual realities dont exist in real life. What do you mean by "our" world?

Lyoko and the real world are pretty different.
 
BruceTheBatman said:
They exist in a computer space that exists in real time unlike the Internet from MMBN or Digimon
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Iirc the super computer is just a device that pretty much connects Lyoko and the real world is all. Xana on multiple occasions has tried destroying it so that way they could either stop them from coming to lyoko or trap them on lyoko and prevent them from getting back to earth. Plus, it seems time flows different between the 2 realities too as Aelita has been trapped on Lyoko for a large part of her life and yet she hasnt aged a bit since she started coming to earth. Not saying they are different space-times though.

Also for Digimon, didnt they use computers to connect to the Digital world? I remember something like that happening in Tamers when the government or whatever used it to monitor the digital world. Plus, Izzy and his computer
 
Time doesn't flow differently.


It's just a computer-engineered world that happens to house an uber-dangerous AI. A supercomputer could make it but it isn' an alternate space-time.
 
Good points. But I still have one more thing to discuss

Lyoko and earth may be connected to each other, but what about Lyoko and the other virtual spaces Xana made? Each Replika of Lyoko has its own super computer to house and power it, like what their Super Computer does for Lyoko. And it requires the Lyoko warriors to travel to completely different separate parts of the World Wide Info. Network to get to these replika's. So it pretty much means each Virtual Space is separate from each other. I believe Jeremy and Aelita explained something like this in one episode. So In the virtual world, would that count as separate space-times or not?
 
Alright, so High 3-A or 3-A it is

But what would the AP be? If its not multi universe level then is it Universe+? I seriously doubt XANA is only universe level when he has created like 100s of different ones in the virtual world.
 
We cant determine its planet sized because of the sectors as the sectors have no real sizes to them, they can be any size in general

And its been stated numerous times in verse that Lyoko is a "virtual universe", like the examples i've give above. They pretty much treat "world" and "universe" as the same thing, just like most of us here on the site treat both as the same in fiction unless there is specific evidence to either and the Lyoko cast has never treated Lyoko like a planet.
 
Right, but the sectors themselves have no real sizes to them so to say they are just like real life ecosystems isnt really the case. Franz Hopper could have programmed them to be much much larger than RL ones. Any size in general really.

In addition, it seems each of the sectors exist in their own pocket spaces that go around sector five as without a Way tower it's impossible to get to the other sectors and you need a transporter to get to sector 5 from any of the 4 sectors. And when all 5 are added up, it likely makes up a "universe".
 
And to add onto it, considering Xana could make parallel pocket worlds that were at least earth sized to match the real world, like in Ghost Channel, while on Lyoko they only made up so much as craters in the sector's landmasses themselves, it should suggest the landmasses of the 4 sectors arent the same size as RL ones, but bigger to a large extent.

I mean honestly, it can be either one but Lyoko should at least be implied to be a universe given the continuous statements of it being called as such. And Aelita and Jeremy, ones who know Lyoko inside and out besides Franz Hopper, should know very well if it was or wasnt a universe. In fact, if they didnt treat "World" and "Universe" as the exact same thing, then they wouldnt be dumb or oblivious enough like Ulrich or Odd to mix the 2 terms together for Lyoko.

But if it's that much of a confusion, we could always just rate Xana "Likely 3-A" due to Lyoko being continously refered to as a universe from the most intelligent members of the verses's cast, if only temporarily. How's that?
 
Alright then. Likely 3-A Xana in the virtual world it is then.

Okay. So are Xana, WIlliam and Aelita getting profiles now or do we need some confirmation?
 
BruceTheBatman said:
Both.

XANA is in a completely different league from the rest of the cast
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Good point. But I think its better to label it as a sort of hax or Code Manipulation since "Code XANA" probably cant be used outside of towers. Unless does it matter since verse equalization?
 
Also, Aelita should be scaled higher than any of the Lyoko warriors except for William. Im rewatching the series now xD and i passed an episode in S3 where Jeremy reveals he had a Statistics Program installed in the Super Computer that keeps records of all their battles up to that point to properly list their stats. At the end of the episode, Jeremy revealed that the one who had the best stats out of all the Lyoko warriors was Aelita, so that should mean Aelita is above them all in stats/ratings. The only one who doesnt apply to this is William in both normal form and Xana form.
 
Actually I just remembered, Aelita actually doenst need to use Code Xana to erase the Sectors. In one episode she was required to destroy the Ice Sector for Jeremy so that they could save the Super Computer from being destroyed. And she did it without being under Xana's control. However the problem is they never revealed the Code Name for that ability she displayed, so its likely just "Code Aelita" im guessing.

In that case, its definitely a hax Aelita can use by herself. However William still needs to be under Xana's control to use the Xana code.
 
That reminds me, shouldnt William and Franz Hopper get immunity to existence erasure? In the show, the Digital Sea will basically kill, delele, and/or erase you from the virtual world completely, subsiquentially erasing you from existence without being able to be materialized back into the real world. Or in other words, "Eternal Devirtualization". William while under Xana's control is immune to the effects of the Digital Sea erasing you, as well as devirtualization too since he couldnt come back to earth without Jeremy making up a special program to free him. And Franz Hopper could too as he saved Aelita from being erased and could go into and from the Digital Sea at will. So, given the effects of the Digital Sea, it should imply immunity to existence erasure. Or "Deletion". What do you think Bruce?
 
Good point. And like I suggested before I think Aelita should be scaled superior to all the warriors except for William due to Jeremy's statistics program

Also, now that I think about it, do we count Code Lyoko Quest for Infinity and Code Lyoko Evolution as keys here?
 
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