Marvel Characters Re-Scaling

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Avengers #57 - #58

• Was created by Ultron to destroy the Avengers
• No-sells Iron Man's repulsors
• But Thor beats him like he should

Avengers Issue #67

• Tanks a blow from a held-back Ultro

Avengers Issue #71

• Defeats all of the Invaders

Avengers Issue #79

• Claims to be the fastest Avengers safe Pietro (Pretty sure he's underestimating Thor and Iron Man, tho)

Avengers Issue #89

• Increases his mass so much that Annihilus can't pull him into the Negative Zone

Avengers Issue #91

• Reveals he usually holds back, and takes down Goliath with one punch

Avengers Issue #92

• Wanda says Vision is the strongest of the current Avengers team, which doesn't include Thor

Avengers Issue #98

• Would have beaten Iron Man had he not held back

Avengers Issue #116

• Tackles Silver Surfer (Surfer was weakened at the time)

Avengers Issue #128

• Intercepts lightning

Avengers Issue #132

• Increases his mass so much that Wonder Man hurts his hand punching him

Avengers Issue #147

• Defeats Hyperion with a phasing attack (Impressive but not AP feat)

Avengers Issue #158

• Staggers Wonder Woman with Heat blasts but ultimately loses

Avengers Annual #8

• Weakens Hyperion with a phasing attack
• But loses to possessed Thor alongside the rest of the Avengers (I like it when writers admit that Thor is way above everyone else)

Avengers Issue #180

• survives being swatted into orbit

Avengers issue #253

• Controls all computers in the world with his technopathy

As you can see, he is all over the place.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I found a Massively Hypersonic+ feat for Vision.

 

[Antvasima]

So, what statistics do you suggest?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I am still looking through more feats. Our current feats for Vision aren't bad. Although he could be at best upgraded to Iron Man's level.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

His phasing attacks do allow him to bypass durability up to near-Thor level characters, though.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Matthew_Schroeder/Marvel_Comics:_Electro_Feats

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thanks. What are your conclusions?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I don't know. I'd appreciate if Darkanine could calc any of the feats there. If does give a lot more credence to MHS Spider-Man, Daredevil and the like.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. You can ask in the request thread as well.

 

[Cropfist]

Vision has quite a few showings against solar system level characters.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Generally they involve Phasing tho.

 

[Cropfist]

but without phasing,

• Matches Silver Surfer, with Norrin stating Vision is stronger than him

• Stomps Jane Foster

• Easily takes down Nova

• Trades blows with Ultro

• Fights Ultron agai

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Silver Surfer was weakened in that issue and he says that Vision is nearly as strong as he is.

Ultron beat Vision in those panels.

That Nova isn't 4-B.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

But everyone can punch anyone in comics, what matters is the full fight. I doubt it was Vision vs Ultron solo and it ended with a draw or Vision win.

 

[Ryukama]

It's stated that Ultron was unharmed by Vision and then casually backhanded him.

 

[Newendigo]

Its more reasonable scale Vision with Iron man rather than any SS character, not to mention this model of Ultron is very old.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

What about Ronan the Accuser and Electro's physical strength which both need rescaling?

 

[Legion350]

What about the Ultimate Marvel characters?

 

[HeroicDefender97]

Okay, what profiles need help. I can go through the characters individually.

https://heroicdefender97.deviantart.com/art/Audition-Wolverine-vs-Guts-Prelude-630486597

I have a bio which features many of Wolverine's most notable speed feats that might be worth looking into that outta help you and Darkanine out

And it's not limited to just him attacking faster than the eye could percieve

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

What stats for Magneto, Baymax, Balder, Vision, Jean Grey, Storm, Ghost Rider, Iron Man and Legion though?

And I believe we should change Quicksilver's LS to Unknown.

 

[Antvasima]

@S75DF

Well, it was likely unwise of you to start to remove the handbook scaling without anything better to replace it with, especially without an initial content revision thread.

You have received warnings about similar behaviour in the past, and we usually block people for this sort of thing.

@Matthew

I would appreciate if you reverse the revisions in all the pages that are now worse off than before.

 

[Freedomstar]

Storm needs an upgrade all together. Storm was able to counter a planet busting attack from Siena Blaze, save the entire earth from gamma rays, created a solar wind around the planet and stated she added more power she would ablaze the atmosphere, created a gale force wind backed by the full power of the sun, creating a lightning bolt with enough energy to toss an island into space and go to the core of the earth, saving the world from being destroyed when the earth magnetic field was messed up bad and thats just half of it.

 

[Antvasima]

Just as an update, I reverted several of S75DF's edits a while back.