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I'll vote for gogeta since he has the advantage of flight, energy blasts, and can knock mario out of any of his powerups easily.
 
Kinda doesn't matter. Gogeta hits Mario anyway and he's dead. Anyway, you're under the assumption that Gogeta will hit. He may. He may not. That's the point of the match. The problem is hitting Mario with Mario's gigantic speed advantage of...I don't really know. I don't know how fast Gogeta is, but I know the gap between the two has a lot of zeroes.
 
How is it a huge gap, we're talking about a buu saga character, compared to a frieza saga character.
 
ArbitraryNumbers said:
The OP states that both of the characters have access to everything. No exceptions.
Even without the launch stars or starship mario, he should be able to pull this off. Anytime Gogeta tries to fire any Galaxy Level projectiles, (if he can even do so before he's already been blitzed to death) then Mario can simply cancel the attack out by spamming a sufficient amount of Multi-Solar System Level+ fireballs at it. Plus Mario can just use the vanish cap to cover for that anyways if he, by some miracle, faces the threat of getting hit by any of Gogeta's attacks.

There's nothing Gogeta can do here. Mario is simply too fast and versatile for him to deal with.
Exactly. And Mario's profile says, possibly 4-A, or higher, so he could possibly be equal to or superior to Gogeta. Even if he isn't the speed advantage is so huge Gogeta's going to have a hard time. The only issue is how could the fireballs be Multi-Solar System level+? Other than that, I agree with ArbitraryNumbers. Unlike Beerus, Gogeta can't harm intangible beings, so the Vanish Cap would protect him.
 
The real cal howard said:
The clac you guys have for anime dbz charscters is from namek saga goku, buu saga is on a whole new league in terms of power and speed.
 
Exactly. And Mario's profile says, possibly 4-A, or higher, so he could possibly be equal to or superior to Gogeta. Even if he isn't the speed advantage is so huge Gogeta's going to have a hard time. The only issue is how could the fireballs be Multi-Solar System level+? Other than that, I agree with ArbitraryNumbers. Unlike Beerus, Gogeta can't harm intangible beings, so the Vanish Cap would protect him.

Mario's Fireballs are supposedly 4-A from the energy they generate, assuming that they're on par with his attack potency. It's a bit weird, yes. But if Mario himself is 4-A then I don't see any reason as to why they'd be weaker than he is unless they're shown to be, which as far as I know, they're not.
 
The real cal howard said:
You realize Mario is 76.9 trillion times FTL, right?
And there's no calcs on how fast gogeta is. You're assuming he blitzes gogeta when we don't even know how fast he is.
 
It's nowhere near that. Note how most of DBZ had no speed feats nearing the rating we give them. It's powerscaling. And powerscaling, Gogeta is nowhere near that speed. Even with wank, Gogeta doesn't pass 1 billion. Heck, the calc for Goku is in the thousands. Granted, the AP gap is pretty darn big, too.
 
The real cal howard said:
It's nowhere near that. Note how most of DBZ had no speed feats nearing the rating we give them. It's powerscaling. And powerscaling, Gogeta is nowhere near that speed. Even with wank, Gogeta doesn't pass 1 billion. Heck, the calc for Goku is in the thousands. Granted, the AP gap is pretty darn big, too.
Ain't Goku on the way to Namek in trillions?and that is accepted for GT too.Which means Gogeta is at least few billions faster than namek saga Goku who's in trillions
 
The real cal howard said:
@Seth. Namek Saga non canon high end is 152 million. At best, eoGT Goku is 100x that.
hahahhahahaha,i hope you are not serious at all.I mean,if you think GT chars are just 100x faster than those from Namek then please close this thread.I've seen it all now :D

lmao
 
@Seth

I think your "I hope you're joking" comment is a little obnoxious. If you're going to make a point, then make a point; you didn't give Cal any response other than "you should close this thread if you really think that", which isn't necessary.
 
The real cal howard said:
I'm curious. How fast do you think they are?
Well,i don't know their speed.

But saying Gogeta is just 100x namek Goku is downplaying.I mean,Goku alone got 16M times stronger compared to SSJ3 Z Goku,yet alone to Namek.And to think that their speed increased just 100 while strenght in billions or more for Gogeta that is doesn't make sense.

Nobody doesn't know their speed anyway,that's why this is speed stomp anyway.
 
Kevyn Souza said:
Theglassman12 said:
Thats for namek saga goku, not gogeta
I do not think Gogeta is at least billions of times superior to Goku Saga Namek to equate with Mario.
SSJ4 GT Goku from last arc is 16M of SSJ3 Z Goku,yet alone Goku to namek version and of top of that Gogeta that is fusion.That's some crazy number compared to namek one.
 
I do not think Gogeta is at least billions of times superior to Goku Saga Namek to equate with Mario.

Look at goten and trunks, they're almost at 18's level, and their fusion can be enough to fight super buu.
 
Well, Mario is SO much faster than Gogeta that he can't really land a hit on him, let alone react to him. I'm fairly sure Mario takes this, especially since Mario is listed as possibly 4-A or higher, so he could actually be comparable to or superior to Gogeta in AP.
 
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