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Maou Gakuin Discussion Thread

PHANtomFELdway said:
Might be possible tbh. There is an ability similar to graham
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Are you reffering to this?:
The 'Eternal Retrogression', which was the pride of the 'King of Vice', has the terrifying power of trapping all beings within its area of effect in a pseudo-hell and continues to present the target to nightmares for eternity until the world itself ends.

The trapped will not be allowed to escape and must meet the end of the world. Meanwhile, the anguish and resentment of the prisoners will make the 'King of Vice - Angra Manyu' grow stronger and stronger.

There is no way to escape from it, and even if one is a 'Primeval Demon' accustomed to hell, you will have to experience the nightmare of annihilation and regeneration on repeat, over and over again.

And then the 'soul' is exhausted and eventually returns to complete nothing. ......
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Maybe I lack context, but reading this, I don't see infinite layers of nep at all

It simply means that they reduce it to nothing, it regenerates, then they destroy it again and so on cyclically until it is exhausted and can no longer regenerate.
 
Success0906 said:
If I remember correctly, Eldemade had made a thread that upgraded sources to Info type 2. As sources contains the fundamental information of one's existence which is necessary for one to exist. And the fact that a source could reconstruct the Spirit, Soul and Physical body of the user by remembering the structure of their body.
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Well, we need to wait for the translations of Volumes 11, 12, and 15, or ask the translation thread members to translate the content. The previous thread was based on the WN, where MTL were allowed. Not that it matters—we would still get Information Type 2 as a source.

We also have some material from Volume 7. I wanted to drop the thread, but Tatsumi said we should wait for Volume 11.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Well, we need to wait for the translations of Volumes 11, 12, and 15, or ask the translation thread members to translate the content. The previous thread was based on the WN, where MTL were allowed. Not that it matters—we would still get Information Type 2 as a source.

We also have some material from Volume 7. I wanted to drop the thread, but Tatsumi said we should wait for Volume 11.
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Oh, so another 3 years.. I can wait!
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Well, we need to wait for the translations of Volumes 11, 12, and 15, or ask the translation thread members to translate the content. The previous thread was based on the WN, where MTL were allowed. Not that it matters—we would still get Information Type 2 as a source.

We also have some material from Volume 7. I wanted to drop the thread, but Tatsumi said we should wait for Volume 11.
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I have a revolutionary proposal, why don't we enslave the translation helpers to translate all the remaining volumes? /j
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Well, we need to wait for the translations of Volumes 11, 12, and 15, or ask the translation thread members to translate the content. The previous thread was based on the WN, where MTL were allowed. Not that it matters—we would still get Information Type 2 as a source.

We also have some material from Volume 7. I wanted to drop the thread, but Tatsumi said we should wait for Volume 11.
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Alright, Do we have any more relevant information (no pun attended) on why Graham has NEP aspect 4 for now? (I would be fine with it when volume 11 comes out if it gets accepted as IM 2 btw)
 
DemonKing021 said:
Maybe. I miss points all the time.

Let's be real. In Misfit verse, characters often don't use their abilities to the fullest in most fights, so the fight can drag longer. Celis could have defeated Graham pretty easily if he used Mauve Eyes hax to prevent the Scythe's falsifying powers. But no, for some reason he didn't.
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This is false. Sure, using Mauve Eyes could have helped Celis win the fight, but it’s not as easy as you’re claiming. Anos also used his Mauve Eyes, and we know what happened after that.

Additionally, the Scythe was able to clash with Venuzdonoa, while the Frenzy God was destroyed in a second
DemonKing021 said:
In Aganzon's case he tried to falsify the attack but Mauve Eyes blocked his powers.
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It doesn’t change anything. The Scythe survived Venuzdonoa’s attacks, which no other god has been able to do.
 
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EldemadeDityjon said:
Well, we need to wait for the translations of Volumes 11, 12, and 15, or ask the translation thread members to translate the content. The previous thread was based on the WN, where MTL were allowed. Not that it matters—we would still get Information Type 2 as a source.

We also have some material from Volume 7. I wanted to drop the thread, but Tatsumi said we should wait for Volume 11.
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link thread, gonna use it for MP Wank
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Serious question, can we ask the translation helpers to translate specific contexts of the untranslated volumes? Or is it necessary for the entire volume to be translated?
 
Success0906 said:
Oh, so another 3 years.. I can wait!
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Nuh next year..Depending on my mood I might do a thread with currently available contents. Volume 7 should be enough to get information type 2 for sources to be fair.
Wesker018 said:
I have a revolutionary proposal, why don't we enslave the translation helpers to translate all the remaining volumes? /j
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We should do that.
Dark_Soul20189 said:
Alright, Do we have any more relevant information (no pun attended) on why Graham has NEP aspect 4 for now? (I would be fine with it when volume 11 comes out if it gets accepted as IM 2 btw)
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Others already addressed that there is no need for that. Either way I don't care about this topic for now.
 
Wesker018 said:
Serious question, can we ask the translation helpers to translate specific contexts of the untranslated volumes? Or is it necessary for the entire volume to be translated?
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Funnily enough, Yes, We can use Wiki translators for help if it's only certain parts from my understanding. But the evidence gained from it needs to have proof in the already translated volumes. (So supporting evidence is allowed, but not only arguments)

This is my current understanding how it works.
 
BreezeHM said:
link thread, gonna use it for MP Wank
:pepeevil:
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We should delete martial fraud verse.
Wesker018 said:
Serious question, can we ask the translation helpers to translate specific contexts of the untranslated volumes? Or is it necessary for the entire volume to be translated?
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If you have read the series you can ask for specific scans translation and explain the contents in the thread. It's not necessary to wait for complete Volume
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
This is false. Sure, using Mauve Eyes could have helped Celis win the fight, but it’s not as easy as you’re claiming. Anos also used his Mauve Eyes, and we know what happened after that.

Additionally, the Scythe was able to clash with Venuzdonoa, while the Frenzy God was destroyed in a second

It doesn’t change anything. The Scythe survived Venuzdonoa’s attacks, which no other god has been able to do.
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That's because Graham also had Mauve Eyes which sealed Venuzdonoa. He would have been screwed if he didn't have Celis' eyes and only his Sythe was powernulled. What can Graham do in a scenario where Celis used his Mauve eyes and spammed Ravia Neold Galvarizen?

Another thing to note is that when Celis fought Graham two thousand years ago he was clueless about Divine Scythe's falsifying power. But in his fight against Aganzon, he had full knowledge of Aganzon's power. So he was able to powernull him immediately before he could falsify Ravia Neold Galvarizen. Two different circumstances.

I agree, that's a sign of fraudulence for the God who is supposed to be able to falsify reality. I interpret that scene as Anos using more of Venuzdonoa's power at the end because he failed the first time.

I am not sure why I am arguing for a God I don't care. But I guess I like the Scythe's name.. "Bephengzdogma".
 
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