Major Fire Emblem Revisions

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Well, I suppose they can get a key for being together + prep, but I wouldn't know how it would really apply to combat

 

[Fire_Emblem_Fan1991]

Creating a Tornado that can pierce thru timelines and mess them together seems pretty capable for combat imo

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Did they have any control over it?

 

[Fire_Emblem_Fan1991]

Yup.

Look at the vid.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

So it would be

9-B | 9-B. 2-C with Tempest Rites


Keys: By themselves | Together

 

[Fire_Emblem_Fan1991]

They needed each other?

I didnt see that implied in the dialogue, i thought Veronica could do it on her own with instructions by Loki, but alas, if you insist...

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Bump, I'd like to get this done soon so I could work more on skills, which REALLY need to be revised "I dunno it's an agressive fighting style so that somehow stops them from activating skills" (Really, where does one come to that conclusion?)

 

[Reppuzan]

@JSW

I haven't touched the FE profiles in a while and I should have supervised them better. What does that description refer to?

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Nihil

 

[Reppuzan]

@JSW

How many profiles have it?

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Off the top of my head I know Arvis (Fire Emblem), Julia (Fire Emblem), Seliph (Fire Emblem), and Julius (Fire Emblem) all have it

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Okay, bumping

Why does Alm have Time Manipulation via Mila's Turnwheel, it was stated to see into the past and future (meaning if anything it's just REALLY GOOD precog)

Also, could Alm (with Falchion) possibly get a Resistance to Power Nullification? Since he is the only one unaffected by Duma's Power Nullification

This would also apply to Naga, since it's one of Naga's fangs

 

[Reppuzan]

@JSW

I know it's only used as part of the game's mechanics, but saying that Alm and Celica can't rewind time with the Mila's Turnwheel is like saying that Final Fantasy characters can't have their magic. It's obtainable in-game and isn't ridiculously game mechanics based. Hence why I added it.

Maybe? I think it's more of an Anti-Divine/Dragon effect due to being Naga's fang.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

But in story it's stated to be capable of seeing through time, this is different than for example, if Mila's Turnwheel wasn't mentioned to see through time in story, but it WAS mentioned to see through time in story, meaning if anything turning back time is only a gameplay mechanic or just the precognition going back to the point where the turnwheel started showing Alm the future

Except Duma actually nullifies the attacks of others, Duma is unable to nullify Alm's attacks when using Oculus (it's even stated to nullify attacks)

 

[Reppuzan]

@JSW

I understand that and that should be added. But the time rewind is in the game.

By this logic, we'd have to remove virtually every optional magic ability from RPG profiles since they themselves aren't referenced by the characters in the story.

I'm not sure if we can generalize this. I know Oculus can stop oncoming attacks and pierce through his God privileges, but I'm not sure what to call this.

Both Oculus and God nullify even regular attacks, which wouldn't fall under Power Nullification.

So we might just have to explain it as a specialized power rather than trying to umbrella term it.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Okay then....but I think there's a difference between not being mentioned in the story than being said to do something completely different

What would Oculus fall under then?

 

[Reppuzan]

@JSW

It's still a function Alm and Celica can use. We'd have to remove the precog mention too because they virtually never use it in the game because plot if we continue with this train of logic.

It'd be closer to invulnerability, since it simply nullifies oncoming attacks.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Actually, the Turnwheel shows Alm a vision when it's first given to him

It literally stops people from attacking.....

 

[Reppuzan]

But he never utilizes it to see the future for recon for example.

I'd rather specify that it stops people from attacking then. I guess I was confusing it with Duma's god trait.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

It was even stated that it was a warning, so it should also be added that the Turnwheel can warn Alm/Celica and doesn't need to be activated

So, what would Oculus fall under if it isn't Power Nullification? It says it nullifies attacks and stops people from attacking

 

[Reppuzan]

Like I said, it wouldn't fall under Power Nullification for the sole reason that it doesn't just work on supernatural powers but also regular attacks.

Hence I'd rather not group it under that and just say, "Can nullify oncoming attacks with Oculus and stops them from attacking him further."

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Well, Alm via Falchion (and by extension Naga) are still resistant (to the point of ignoring it) to it, which is why I was hoping it could've fallen under something

 

[Reppuzan]

I'd rather just provide a statement saying that Alm can ignore such abilities.

"Can ignore abilities that directly nullify attacks and prevent them from happening."