Magic that is conceptual and have law manipulations by Nature

[Livinmeme]

Example magic in a verse i am working is conceptual if the magic is used to use a ice spell is the ice spell conceptual?

 

[SomaKing13]

Example magic in a verse i am working is conceptual if the magic is used to use a ice spell is the ice spell conceptual?

Completely depends on how the conceptual magic works, Aethyr Manipulation is a good example of Conceptual magic but not everything cast is conceptual in nature, only brought forth through manipulating possibility and concepts

 

[Antoniofer]

One thing is the mechanism and the other is the effect, just cuz the power involve manipulating a facet of reality and its laws does not mean all spells manipulate reality or laws (although, one may thing that creating stuff from nothing such fire or make oneself levitate involve "law bending" abilities).

 

[Livinmeme]

Also magic can "emulate" the fragments of a conceptual being so there is that. And the spells can hit physical representations of sins and things like that.

 

[Antoniofer]

Well, one have no merit is hitting physical representations, as they are physicals and NPI is not required.

 

[Livinmeme]

What about the mimicry conceptual stuffs tho

 

[Antoniofer]

Requires context, that piece of text does not really says much.

 

[Livinmeme]

Basically the "monsters" are fragments of chaos, a certain type of magic grant access to the their abilities,

 

[Antoniofer]

Still does not means much beyond the monster having traits related to chaos magic.

 

[Livinmeme]

The monsters are fragments of chaos, chaos is conceptual god

 

[Antoniofer]

Even if you have proof of these monsters being incorporeal, that would be NPI.

 

[Livinmeme]

They are incorporeal tho ( i mean some of them but not all)

 

[SomaKing13]

They are incorporeal tho ( i mean some of them but not all)

Again that's just NPI

 

[Livinmeme]

How is being a fragment of a conceptual being NPI?

 

[Antoniofer]

I was refering to the magic that can hurt them (or I believe it can, assuming they are incorporeal).

 

[Livinmeme]

The monsters arent incorporeal (there are incorporeal monsters but yeah...) BUT they have the power of chaos that make them made things like breath fire Basically they are bootleg fragments of chaos and Blue magic can copy a more purified version..... yeah the cosmology is kinda convoluted

 

[Antoniofer]

Breathing fire is not concept manip, if that is what you're trying to say.

 

[Livinmeme]

Just giving a example being fragments of chaos give you abilities. Basically what i am saying is that the monsters arent AE (some of them are) but the abilities are as they are literally weaponized fragment of a living concept

 

[Livinmeme]

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