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What tier Lupin is in this fight? 9-A, 8-C or High 8-C?

And this Joseph is Pre-Training or Post-Training?
 
Even if Lupin has better prep time than Joseph, we shouldn't forget tha he outsmarted Kars that is much more smarter tha him
 
Don't underestimate Lupin, he did solve the mystery that members of an advance alien civilization couldn't in thousands of years, outsmart a clone of Leonardo Da Vinci who could create a device that was going to mind swap everyone on Italy and defeated Mamo a being claimed to be thousands of years old who had acquired the knowledge and wisdom of all geniuses, scientists and philosophers of history.
 
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