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Howdy folks, welcome back to your irregularly scheduled program of updating a famous verse you never herd of! On today's episode of "Blizzard's Bad Decisions" we have the Lupin III Pachinko games and the related media to them. The games utilize the TMS Versions of the characters with it being animated and approved by them, and because of the fact that the franchise composites itself on anything relating to TMS that means these are viable for usage.
TLDR: It's canon, only abilities, powers, and stat upgrades need to be approved so there's no need to be familiar with the verse (Hopefully we can finish this in less than a month)
Due to the nature of these feats, many of the clips used will have varying qualities since it's gambling machines and all of it's source material is scattered among countless random oddities and can be subject to the scenes skipping themselves. What will be qualified as a legitimate feat is if they characters are portrayed doing/using something themselves and it's not considered the machine doing it itself (For example, it's very common for the machines just to put fire particles all over the screen. This wouldn't count as fire resistance as the machine is creating dramatic effects).
Due to the large number of different Pachinko machines, I will not be listing out each individual reference for the feats in order to save space (And make this look somewhat readable) and will only do so for substantial things. The games that will be used is the 'Zenigata is the Main Character' game series and 'Resurrection of Mamo' to start off with, any others will be mentioned next to the brief usage of it and will have closer examination on a future revision.
Entire Main Cast - These are for feats that apply to everyone, either because they all accomplish these feats or due to everyone being relative enough to qualify it
Non-Physical Interaction and 4th Wall Breaking - Characters from the entire cast (even the sword) are repeatedly shown to literally break the 4th Wall and interact with their environment with said ability, which is actually consistent with the franchise since it's practically a stable for the characters to interact in such a way, such as the Lupin's famous examples of him shooting his own title screens (He does this in moments other than the openings, though it's typically in eyecatchers during the episodes) or Zenigata and Lupin directing mentioning the audience in Episode 100 of Part 2
Resistance to Extreme Cold and Cosmic Radiation with Self Sustenance (Type 1) as optional equipment - The cast is capable of surviving and swimming in space, specifically the exosphere, with nothing but their normal attire and a bowl on their heads.
Elasticity Toon Force - Capable of surviving being flattened (Other characters pop up for this event but this is the only on-screen examples I can find of it working), Zenigata can survive being deflated
Dimensional Travel and Immersion - The cast are capable of physically breaking into a digital world
Resistance to Transmutation - The entire cast is unaffected when the surrounding area gets transmuted into gold including the moon
Resistance to Fire Manipulation - Characters are shown completely unaffected by magical fireEven when the blood moon shows and Fujiko gets something cool it's for a general ability
More evidence supporting relativistic speed - Honestly the verse should just be Relativistic at this rate, even if the calcs haven't ever been accepted there are more than enough examples of it to solidify the idea that the rating is accurate, so I prepose we remove the 'possibly' category and just make everyone Relativistic in combat speed so we don't have a cluttered mess for a speed section.
Zenigata - As the star of his own 4 games, our good ol Pops here has quite a selection of abilities to utilize thanks to him being depicted as biblically accurate
Resistance to Electricity Manipulation - Can survive being stuck by natural lighting and can keep going like nothing happened
Metal Manipulation, Thread Manipulation, and Danmaku - Zenigata is capable of generating handcuffs and sending them out to restrain objects/people, with him even being capable of effecting the text on screen. He's capable of sending them out in multiple ways such as through danmaku rope
Social Influencing (Instigating Fear) - Zenigata is capable of instilling so much fear, that he can make Lupin pass out (Also kinda works on Goemon to a lesser degree)
Fire Manipulation - Zenigata is capable of generating fire through sheer force of will, with the heat extending to his baton. Can apply this effect to his rope to create flaming improvised weapons out of objects
Toon Force - Capable of staying afloat in mid-air, being able to semi-fly/float similarly to how Lupin can even in space. Can jump from outside the frames in order to re-enter the fight.
Optional Flight via a Jetpack and Plane
Optional Planetary Information Analysis and Clairvoyance - Using ICPO Tech, Zenigata is capable of tracking and finding people from across the entire planet at a highly precise level (The End). He's even capable of tracking people located in the exosphere
Vehicle Mastery, Water Walking, and Surface Scaling - Zenigata has killer skateboard skillz, capable of biking up vertically what appears to be the Eiffel Tower, can fly a plane, can ride his bike on water
Transformation, Statistics Amplification, Sound Manipulation and Large Size (Type 0) - By drinking Muscle Z, Zenigata is capable of transforming into....... The Infraggable Krunk from Dexters Lab?!?!?!, creating an earth shattering scream as all his physical stats dramatically improve!
Weapon Mastery - Shown to be skilled in swordsmanship
Zenigata-Robo - In the 'Zenigata is the Main Character' game series, Zenigata creates a robotic mech named Zenigatarobo. It'd classify as optional equipment/prep time and has a few abilities of its own.
Lupin III: - He's the one, everybody's waiting for! Scream for him, a romantic modern hero. We need a hero, someone we can look up to. HE'S A SUPER-HERO!!!
Lupin-Robo - Lupin has his own version of the Zenigata-Robo in the 'Zenigata is the Main Character' series, scales to the other robot and should have all of it's basic abilities including Super Arrest Rush but without the orbital satellite. Only difference is that Lupinrobo can be Summoned
Optional Magic Reflection - By utilizing a magic mirror, Lupin is capable of reflecting magical attacks back at the opponent
Additional Optional Fire Manipulation alongside Enhanced Fire Resistance - With a magic artifact, he's capable of generating pillars of fire capable of instantly burning Mamo as well as withstanding the heat
Probability Manipulation - He is shown to alter chances and odds in a variety of ways
Optional Electricity Manipulation - By using two metal rods, Lupin was able to send electrical strikes towards his opponent
Negation of Weather Manipulation, Illusion Creation, and Lightning Manipulation - Lupin, through sheer force of will, was capable of completely destroying Mamo's catastrophe and his Illusionary Head
Information Analysis and Superhuman Precision - Despite never being told and only having a brief interaction with him, Lupin was able to figure out Oda Nobunaga was a robot and was able to hit a specific weak point that couldn't be seen that dismantled him (Message to God)
Additional Optional Adhesive Manipulation - Can fly a remote control helicopter which has adhesive firearms (Erased Lupin)
Resistance and Negation of Time Manipulation - BEHOLD, MY ANTI-SLY COOPER-INATOR-uh, I mean, Lupin is capable of resisting and combating against Mamo's temporal abilities, which can pause, rewind, resume, and even accelerate it (Side note, would Mamo get a layer of Time Manipulation due to the fact that he can out counter Lupin's countering?)
Resistance to Telepathy and a few alterations to Lupin's resistances - Ok, so this one is a bit more complex due to the fact that I'm using resources outside of the Pachinko machines. Firstly the resistance to telepathy comes from him being able to shut his brain off against an opponent who could predict his actions though thought reading alongside his already credited resistance to Mind Manipulation "Countered Rasputin's mind reading by turning off his mind". He should get an Immunity to Dream Manipulation however because in The Mystery of Mamo movie proper, it's directly stated that Lupin III doesn't dream and that it's just an empty void in that section of his head. Something which Mamo, the smartest thing in the world, says is a sign of a complete idiot or an absolute God. I won't show the clip for it due to the fact that the entire scene is one big epilepsy warning, however any of the knowledgeable members will know the scene and anyone who wants to personally find it can see it at the 59:00 mark of the movie. Lupin's current Dream Manipulation resistance should instead be moved to his Sleep Manipulation resistance (and upgrade it to a full resistance) alongside a Memory Manipulation and Possession resistance due to Wataru Uraga's cipher not being a normal dream but instead implants the creator's own dreams into other people, which alters their mind to turn them into personifications of the creator.
Jigen - Old reliable doesn't get much in these games, thanks to his consistency in nature. Though he's not out of complete luck yet since his profile still lacks things common for him and he'll get more in The Modern Update
Optional Flight - Can fly a plane
Optional Limited Rope Manipulation via grappling hook gun
Pure Skill - This isn't even a power, this is just a pure flex that needs to be respected. Could also be argued as relevant to the Relativistic Section above since Jigen is spinning somewhat in tandem with the lasers
Goemon - Wait a minute..... Lupin and Zenigata have reached Island Level and have dethroned the Honored One from his throne, I MUST BUFF GOEMON AGAIN!!!!!
Easily the biggest alteration in the verse: Goemon will be upgraded to Moon Level for his blade's potency and durability with planetary range on it, this feat is found in 'Resurrection of Mamo'. There is supporting evidence for this as the Detective Conan crossover is canon for the Lupin Verse since it's not only approved but directly made by TMS, which make Goemon doing this consistent. The only thing in the verse that gets buffed by this is Hawk due to the Zantetsuken being a god-tier weapon that has no direct equal, Hawk scaling to it however isn't an outlier thanks to additional information from the series that, while not technically confirmed thanks to the final instalment being in limbo, gives us all the information we need.
Hawk, alongside Bincam and Yael, are all connected by a mysterious benefactor (sorry for the low quality, was the best image I could find for that source) who is connected to all the evil in the world with an immeasurable amount of wealth and influence...... with us already knowing the man thanks to Jigen's Gravestone directly showing us that it's Mamo, who fits this description like a T! This is important because Mamo is connected to every advancement in human history, which would include several, if not every single variation of the Zantetsuken's creation! While the blade's origin has been altered time and time again, it's typically always been tied to some scientific advancement that gets lost to time, most notably the Alchemist Scroll in Episode 0 which was a formula made to create Zantetsuken steel that turned the tide of World War 2 before being lost. Because of this, and the fact that Mamo already has a history of giving this type of metal to his underlings, there is an absurdly high chance that Hawk's axes are made of similar metal which grant them such absurd statistics.
(Note to knowledgeable members - Should we change Hawk's regeneration over time with the resurrection methods that Mamo used for this reason, since he was confirmed dead this would lead to strong evidence that he is in fact resurrecting instead of simply regenerating)
Surface Scaling - Capable of running up vertically what appears to be the Eiffel Tower
Limited Elemental Manipulation and Resistance to Lava - Alright, to start off the Isekai Manga feats we have Goemon using his blade to utilize his surrounding elements in order to deliver special attacks that-huh? You're telling this isn't the Isekai Manga and Goemon has been doing this shit a year before it even happened...... WELL THEN! Jokes aside, his elemental manipulation is only applicable to elements that the blade is capable of resisting/interacting with, which will be addressed in a future revision.
Fujiko Mine: Alright, it's Fujiko's time to shine, let me just check my record of feats gathered from over 5 separate games. Honestly the Fujiko profile should just be dele-
Fujiko: BANKAI: Senbonzakura Kageyoshi - By utilizing custom roses, she can Summon countless petals to conceal herself, Barrier against attacks, as well as Danmaku thorns.
Higher Durability - Wears bulletproof attire underneath her clothing (Last Gold)
Agree: @Homie890, @Emerald (Also agrees with the storm feat being AP)
Disagree:
Neutral:
TLDR: It's canon, only abilities, powers, and stat upgrades need to be approved so there's no need to be familiar with the verse (Hopefully we can finish this in less than a month)
Due to the nature of these feats, many of the clips used will have varying qualities since it's gambling machines and all of it's source material is scattered among countless random oddities and can be subject to the scenes skipping themselves. What will be qualified as a legitimate feat is if they characters are portrayed doing/using something themselves and it's not considered the machine doing it itself (For example, it's very common for the machines just to put fire particles all over the screen. This wouldn't count as fire resistance as the machine is creating dramatic effects).
Due to the large number of different Pachinko machines, I will not be listing out each individual reference for the feats in order to save space (And make this look somewhat readable) and will only do so for substantial things. The games that will be used is the 'Zenigata is the Main Character' game series and 'Resurrection of Mamo' to start off with, any others will be mentioned next to the brief usage of it and will have closer examination on a future revision.
Entire Main Cast - These are for feats that apply to everyone, either because they all accomplish these feats or due to everyone being relative enough to qualify it
Non-Physical Interaction and 4th Wall Breaking - Characters from the entire cast (even the sword) are repeatedly shown to literally break the 4th Wall and interact with their environment with said ability, which is actually consistent with the franchise since it's practically a stable for the characters to interact in such a way, such as the Lupin's famous examples of him shooting his own title screens (He does this in moments other than the openings, though it's typically in eyecatchers during the episodes) or Zenigata and Lupin directing mentioning the audience in Episode 100 of Part 2
- Optional Addition - Give this to everyone in the verse, I've seen a lot of the side cast interacting in this way with even Nyx having his own moment so it's not unreasonable to argue just everyone in the verse has these traits. (If Fujiko can do it, SO CAN YOU)
Resistance to Extreme Cold and Cosmic Radiation with Self Sustenance (Type 1) as optional equipment - The cast is capable of surviving and swimming in space, specifically the exosphere, with nothing but their normal attire and a bowl on their heads.
Elasticity Toon Force - Capable of surviving being flattened (Other characters pop up for this event but this is the only on-screen examples I can find of it working), Zenigata can survive being deflated
Dimensional Travel and Immersion - The cast are capable of physically breaking into a digital world
Resistance to Transmutation - The entire cast is unaffected when the surrounding area gets transmuted into gold including the moon
Resistance to Fire Manipulation - Characters are shown completely unaffected by magical fire
More evidence supporting relativistic speed - Honestly the verse should just be Relativistic at this rate, even if the calcs haven't ever been accepted there are more than enough examples of it to solidify the idea that the rating is accurate, so I prepose we remove the 'possibly' category and just make everyone Relativistic in combat speed so we don't have a cluttered mess for a speed section.
Zenigata - As the star of his own 4 games, our good ol Pops here has quite a selection of abilities to utilize thanks to him being depicted as biblically accurate
Resistance to Electricity Manipulation - Can survive being stuck by natural lighting and can keep going like nothing happened
Metal Manipulation, Thread Manipulation, and Danmaku - Zenigata is capable of generating handcuffs and sending them out to restrain objects/people, with him even being capable of effecting the text on screen. He's capable of sending them out in multiple ways such as through danmaku rope
Social Influencing (Instigating Fear) - Zenigata is capable of instilling so much fear, that he can make Lupin pass out (Also kinda works on Goemon to a lesser degree)
Fire Manipulation - Zenigata is capable of generating fire through sheer force of will, with the heat extending to his baton. Can apply this effect to his rope to create flaming improvised weapons out of objects
Toon Force - Capable of staying afloat in mid-air, being able to semi-fly/float similarly to how Lupin can even in space. Can jump from outside the frames in order to re-enter the fight.
Optional Flight via a Jetpack and Plane
Optional Planetary Information Analysis and Clairvoyance - Using ICPO Tech, Zenigata is capable of tracking and finding people from across the entire planet at a highly precise level (The End). He's even capable of tracking people located in the exosphere
Vehicle Mastery, Water Walking, and Surface Scaling - Zenigata has killer skateboard skillz, capable of biking up vertically what appears to be the Eiffel Tower, can fly a plane, can ride his bike on water
Transformation, Statistics Amplification, Sound Manipulation and Large Size (Type 0) - By drinking Muscle Z, Zenigata is capable of transforming into....... The Infraggable Krunk from Dexters Lab?!?!?!, creating an earth shattering scream as all his physical stats dramatically improve!
Weapon Mastery - Shown to be skilled in swordsmanship
Zenigata-Robo - In the 'Zenigata is the Main Character' game series, Zenigata creates a robotic mech named Zenigatarobo. It'd classify as optional equipment/prep time and has a few abilities of its own.
- Large Size (Type 1) - Dats a huge robot
- Energy Manipulation - Is capable of firing energy beams strong enough to create island sized explosions
- Lupin surviving this will be considered an outlier unless we accept this alongside the later mentioned Weather Negation as viable
- Heat Manipulation, Limited Electricity Manipulation, and Limited Smoke Manipulaion alongside a resistance to all of it - The Zenigata-Robo passively generates these simply by powering up
- Explosion Manipulation and Limited Ressurection - Zenigata-Robo is capable of firing missiles from it's mouth and reviving itself if it sustains too much damage
- Note: I've never actually seen the revive animation, however once successful Zenigata-Robo will enter Super Arrest Rush
- Information Analysis - Has a full 3d hud that shows the surroundings as well as the status of the robot
- Hive Mind - Has an orbital satellite to shoot lasers down onto enemies
- Flight and Instinctive Actions - Capable of flying and operating without a pilot
- Awakened Power, Transformation, Light Manipulation, Probability Manipulation, and all abilities and stats dramatically increased - Zenigata-Robo is capable of entering Super Arrest Rush which dramatically increases Zenigata's odds of success to the point of fighting and overpowering game overs alongside creating new probabilities, empowers all of his abilities and stats, and causes the robot to glow golden with a rainbow aura.
Lupin III: - He's the one, everybody's waiting for! Scream for him, a romantic modern hero. We need a hero, someone we can look up to. HE'S A SUPER-HERO!!!
Lupin-Robo - Lupin has his own version of the Zenigata-Robo in the 'Zenigata is the Main Character' series, scales to the other robot and should have all of it's basic abilities including Super Arrest Rush but without the orbital satellite. Only difference is that Lupinrobo can be Summoned
Optional Magic Reflection - By utilizing a magic mirror, Lupin is capable of reflecting magical attacks back at the opponent
Additional Optional Fire Manipulation alongside Enhanced Fire Resistance - With a magic artifact, he's capable of generating pillars of fire capable of instantly burning Mamo as well as withstanding the heat
Probability Manipulation - He is shown to alter chances and odds in a variety of ways
Optional Electricity Manipulation - By using two metal rods, Lupin was able to send electrical strikes towards his opponent
Negation of Weather Manipulation, Illusion Creation, and Lightning Manipulation - Lupin, through sheer force of will, was capable of completely destroying Mamo's catastrophe and his Illusionary Head
- Alternatively, we treat this as an legit AP feat and we would need calculations made for Lupin does this alongside Lupin surviving this explosion which would massively bump everyone in the verse's tier
Information Analysis and Superhuman Precision - Despite never being told and only having a brief interaction with him, Lupin was able to figure out Oda Nobunaga was a robot and was able to hit a specific weak point that couldn't be seen that dismantled him (Message to God)
Additional Optional Adhesive Manipulation - Can fly a remote control helicopter which has adhesive firearms (Erased Lupin)
Resistance and Negation of Time Manipulation - BEHOLD, MY ANTI-SLY COOPER-INATOR-uh, I mean, Lupin is capable of resisting and combating against Mamo's temporal abilities, which can pause, rewind, resume, and even accelerate it (Side note, would Mamo get a layer of Time Manipulation due to the fact that he can out counter Lupin's countering?)
Resistance to Telepathy and a few alterations to Lupin's resistances - Ok, so this one is a bit more complex due to the fact that I'm using resources outside of the Pachinko machines. Firstly the resistance to telepathy comes from him being able to shut his brain off against an opponent who could predict his actions though thought reading alongside his already credited resistance to Mind Manipulation "Countered Rasputin's mind reading by turning off his mind". He should get an Immunity to Dream Manipulation however because in The Mystery of Mamo movie proper, it's directly stated that Lupin III doesn't dream and that it's just an empty void in that section of his head. Something which Mamo, the smartest thing in the world, says is a sign of a complete idiot or an absolute God. I won't show the clip for it due to the fact that the entire scene is one big epilepsy warning, however any of the knowledgeable members will know the scene and anyone who wants to personally find it can see it at the 59:00 mark of the movie. Lupin's current Dream Manipulation resistance should instead be moved to his Sleep Manipulation resistance (and upgrade it to a full resistance) alongside a Memory Manipulation and Possession resistance due to Wataru Uraga's cipher not being a normal dream but instead implants the creator's own dreams into other people, which alters their mind to turn them into personifications of the creator.
Jigen - Old reliable doesn't get much in these games, thanks to his consistency in nature. Though he's not out of complete luck yet since his profile still lacks things common for him and he'll get more in The Modern Update
Optional Flight - Can fly a plane
Optional Limited Rope Manipulation via grappling hook gun
Pure Skill - This isn't even a power, this is just a pure flex that needs to be respected. Could also be argued as relevant to the Relativistic Section above since Jigen is spinning somewhat in tandem with the lasers
Goemon - Wait a minute..... Lupin and Zenigata have reached Island Level and have dethroned the Honored One from his throne, I MUST BUFF GOEMON AGAIN!!!!!
Easily the biggest alteration in the verse: Goemon will be upgraded to Moon Level for his blade's potency and durability with planetary range on it, this feat is found in 'Resurrection of Mamo'. There is supporting evidence for this as the Detective Conan crossover is canon for the Lupin Verse since it's not only approved but directly made by TMS, which make Goemon doing this consistent. The only thing in the verse that gets buffed by this is Hawk due to the Zantetsuken being a god-tier weapon that has no direct equal, Hawk scaling to it however isn't an outlier thanks to additional information from the series that, while not technically confirmed thanks to the final instalment being in limbo, gives us all the information we need.
Hawk, alongside Bincam and Yael, are all connected by a mysterious benefactor (sorry for the low quality, was the best image I could find for that source) who is connected to all the evil in the world with an immeasurable amount of wealth and influence...... with us already knowing the man thanks to Jigen's Gravestone directly showing us that it's Mamo, who fits this description like a T! This is important because Mamo is connected to every advancement in human history, which would include several, if not every single variation of the Zantetsuken's creation! While the blade's origin has been altered time and time again, it's typically always been tied to some scientific advancement that gets lost to time, most notably the Alchemist Scroll in Episode 0 which was a formula made to create Zantetsuken steel that turned the tide of World War 2 before being lost. Because of this, and the fact that Mamo already has a history of giving this type of metal to his underlings, there is an absurdly high chance that Hawk's axes are made of similar metal which grant them such absurd statistics.
(Note to knowledgeable members - Should we change Hawk's regeneration over time with the resurrection methods that Mamo used for this reason, since he was confirmed dead this would lead to strong evidence that he is in fact resurrecting instead of simply regenerating)
Surface Scaling - Capable of running up vertically what appears to be the Eiffel Tower
Limited Elemental Manipulation and Resistance to Lava - Alright, to start off the Isekai Manga feats we have Goemon using his blade to utilize his surrounding elements in order to deliver special attacks that-huh? You're telling this isn't the Isekai Manga and Goemon has been doing this shit a year before it even happened...... WELL THEN! Jokes aside, his elemental manipulation is only applicable to elements that the blade is capable of resisting/interacting with, which will be addressed in a future revision.
Fujiko Mine: Alright, it's Fujiko's time to shine, let me just check my record of feats gathered from over 5 separate games. Honestly the Fujiko profile should just be dele-
Fujiko: BANKAI: Senbonzakura Kageyoshi - By utilizing custom roses, she can Summon countless petals to conceal herself, Barrier against attacks, as well as Danmaku thorns.
Higher Durability - Wears bulletproof attire underneath her clothing (Last Gold)
Agree: @Homie890, @Emerald (Also agrees with the storm feat being AP)
Disagree:
Neutral:
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