Hello everyone.
Previously, in this thread, I introduced the proposition of Samael’s Absolute Omnipresence, supported by 7 arguments.
So, without further ado, I begin.
Omnipresence as an Ontological Necessity
Presuppositions:
1_ What we shall here call "Omnipresence" the meaning of omnipresence in this context, regardless of its flaws and shortcomings is defined as a paradoxical state of being in time and space:
Omnipresence is the property of being present everywhere, whenever and nowhere at the same time, referring to an unbounded presence. The ability lets you to be everywhere at once that is, at every point in space during a given instant.
Based on this definition, we will now proceed with a propositional structure for establishing the claim.
2_ The Omnipresence Presence of The Presence
Omnipresence (Called everything and everyone)
Arguments:
1_ Logical Argument
Samael, as the symbol of darkness, is Yahweh’s shadow; for it is only through darkness that Yahweh’s presence (as Light) can be recognized and defined.
This darkness is not of the order of absence, but a kind of hidden presence.
He needed shadow to give his light definition.
Lucifer 2018, #11
The Presence is the overt Omnipresence (as Light), but Samael is the covert Omnipresence (as Darkness)
1. Every determination or presence requires a ground for its manifestation.
Before the world sullied you with all its specificity and definition. [= THE VOID]
Lucifer 2018, #11
Whatever serves as the original ground for everything:
2. This ground cannot itself be determined or limited, or else it would require another, more complete and encompassing ground that is, it must be absolutely infinite, and thus bound by no domain of time, space, or any "where".
3. The ground of presence must be indeterminate and not dependent on any other foundation.
That is: it must be a necessary being, unconditioned and beyond determination.
We have had to accept a cruel truth, my brothers.
That there's no light without darkness.
Lucifer was necessary for father to exist as a defined entity.
Lucifer 2018, the devil at heart
4. This indeterminacy is not light (which reveals itself), but shadow the place where manifestation becomes possible.
The Presence as perfect light; Samael as perfect darkness.
Without elements of each other, perfect light [= The Presence] and perfect darkness [= Samael] are one and the same.
Lucifer 2018, #11
5. Therefore, this ground [= Samael’s darkness / the shadow of The Presence], for which there exists no container [= neither time, nor space, nor any "where"], must itself appear everywhere,
in order to allow The Presence’s light to manifest in every space, time, and "no-place".
6. Thus, Samael, as the Father’s shadow, "must" possess the very attribute of omnipresence for without it, the attribute in the Father would contain contradiction, and thus be negated altogether.
Gruugh stared a little harder at the shadow on the wall, and realized that it was just a trick of the light.
Lucifer 2018, the devil at heart
He needed shadow to give his light definition.
Lucifer 2018, #11
This is also why Samael’s presence in Heaven was meaningful; and with his departure, both Heaven and Hell became devoid of meaning and thus, equalized.
Without the devil, there can be no God.
Without either, hell and heaven are much the same place.
I suspect they'll work out eventually. Once I'm gone.
Lucifer 2018, the devil at heart
A “logical” and “personal” inference we may draw is:
Even if Samael himself refuses, The Presence "must" drive Lucifer’s darkness toward omnipresence even forcibly for its own omnipresence to be realized.
2_ Reductio ad absurdum (Argument by Contradiction)
Let us suppose that Samael’s dark aspect did not reach omnipresence at some point in time, space, or even nowhere.
In that case, there would be a region in existence where darkness had not been actualized; and since The Presence requires darkness to define itself,
The Presence’s existence in that region could not be defined either.
Therefore, Omnipresence would be undermined.
Just like the time when Lucifer had left creation, but in that moment, Lucifer had departed from all of creation entirely, and accordingly, The Presence was absent from every point in time and space within creation.
And that is why, with Lucifer erased, we cannot detect Father at all. He is made indistinct.
Thus we are working to bring Lucifer back...
Lucifer 2018, the devil at heart
and The Presence would no longer be absolutely present.
It is perfectly clear:
"The Presence cannot manifest its full presence everywhere unless Darkness, too, has attained full awareness and presence."
So until Samael’s dark aspect (as the Father’s shadow) reaches omnipresence, even the Light of the Father fails to realize the meaning of omnipresence.
Just like silence in language without which, speech is meaningless.
The word “light” in the metaphysical language game, without its opposing term “darkness”, forms no meaningful play.
That is: Light is only playable [= intelligible] when there is the possibility of darkening.
Author’s note:
Meaning arises through contrast and distinction; words only carry meaning in language when a conceivable opposite or substitute exists.
There must be black against the white for there to be a concept of white at all.
Lucifer 2018, the devil at heart
Without the actualization of omnipresence within darkness (= Samael),
Omnipresence is merely a signifier without a signified.
The actualization of omnipresence in Yahweh depends on its full reflection in all levels.
If Samael, as the complete and absolute form of Darkness, cannot attain omnipresence, then The Presence, as the complete and absolute form of Light,
also fails in achieving total reflection.
3_ Intuitive Argument
When Samael, in the totality of his awareness, experiences the matter of absolute presence not through reasoning or assumption,
but as a direct, self-acting, intuitive experience, that very experience is a solid and weighty testimony to his omnipresence;
for Samael, in such a manifestation, perceives omnipresence without any mediation
Right now, I can see the real appeal of omnipresence.
With this dialogue in mind, this “perception” is not an assumption,
but the actual emergence of omnipresence within the sphere of his intuitive consciousness.
What is made present is neither illusion, nor empirical assumption, nor a report of experience but the experience itself within the very moment.
Or rather: this is an authentic manifestation of the reality of omnipresence within Samael.
Previously, in this thread, I introduced the proposition of Samael’s Absolute Omnipresence, supported by 7 arguments.
So, without further ado, I begin.
Omnipresence as an Ontological Necessity
Presuppositions:
1_ What we shall here call "Omnipresence" the meaning of omnipresence in this context, regardless of its flaws and shortcomings is defined as a paradoxical state of being in time and space:
Omnipresence is the property of being present everywhere, whenever and nowhere at the same time, referring to an unbounded presence. The ability lets you to be everywhere at once that is, at every point in space during a given instant.
Based on this definition, we will now proceed with a propositional structure for establishing the claim.
2_ The Omnipresence Presence of The Presence
Omnipresence (Called everything and everyone)
Arguments:
1_ Logical Argument
Samael, as the symbol of darkness, is Yahweh’s shadow; for it is only through darkness that Yahweh’s presence (as Light) can be recognized and defined.
This darkness is not of the order of absence, but a kind of hidden presence.
He needed shadow to give his light definition.
Lucifer 2018, #11
The Presence is the overt Omnipresence (as Light), but Samael is the covert Omnipresence (as Darkness)
1. Every determination or presence requires a ground for its manifestation.
Before the world sullied you with all its specificity and definition. [= THE VOID]
Lucifer 2018, #11
Whatever serves as the original ground for everything:
2. This ground cannot itself be determined or limited, or else it would require another, more complete and encompassing ground that is, it must be absolutely infinite, and thus bound by no domain of time, space, or any "where".
3. The ground of presence must be indeterminate and not dependent on any other foundation.
That is: it must be a necessary being, unconditioned and beyond determination.
We have had to accept a cruel truth, my brothers.
That there's no light without darkness.
Lucifer was necessary for father to exist as a defined entity.
Lucifer 2018, the devil at heart
4. This indeterminacy is not light (which reveals itself), but shadow the place where manifestation becomes possible.
The Presence as perfect light; Samael as perfect darkness.
Without elements of each other, perfect light [= The Presence] and perfect darkness [= Samael] are one and the same.
Lucifer 2018, #11
5. Therefore, this ground [= Samael’s darkness / the shadow of The Presence], for which there exists no container [= neither time, nor space, nor any "where"], must itself appear everywhere,
in order to allow The Presence’s light to manifest in every space, time, and "no-place".
6. Thus, Samael, as the Father’s shadow, "must" possess the very attribute of omnipresence for without it, the attribute in the Father would contain contradiction, and thus be negated altogether.
Gruugh stared a little harder at the shadow on the wall, and realized that it was just a trick of the light.
Lucifer 2018, the devil at heart
He needed shadow to give his light definition.
Lucifer 2018, #11
This is also why Samael’s presence in Heaven was meaningful; and with his departure, both Heaven and Hell became devoid of meaning and thus, equalized.
Without the devil, there can be no God.
Without either, hell and heaven are much the same place.
I suspect they'll work out eventually. Once I'm gone.
Lucifer 2018, the devil at heart
A “logical” and “personal” inference we may draw is:
Even if Samael himself refuses, The Presence "must" drive Lucifer’s darkness toward omnipresence even forcibly for its own omnipresence to be realized.
2_ Reductio ad absurdum (Argument by Contradiction)
Let us suppose that Samael’s dark aspect did not reach omnipresence at some point in time, space, or even nowhere.
In that case, there would be a region in existence where darkness had not been actualized; and since The Presence requires darkness to define itself,
The Presence’s existence in that region could not be defined either.
Therefore, Omnipresence would be undermined.
Just like the time when Lucifer had left creation, but in that moment, Lucifer had departed from all of creation entirely, and accordingly, The Presence was absent from every point in time and space within creation.
And that is why, with Lucifer erased, we cannot detect Father at all. He is made indistinct.
Thus we are working to bring Lucifer back...
Lucifer 2018, the devil at heart
and The Presence would no longer be absolutely present.
It is perfectly clear:
"The Presence cannot manifest its full presence everywhere unless Darkness, too, has attained full awareness and presence."
So until Samael’s dark aspect (as the Father’s shadow) reaches omnipresence, even the Light of the Father fails to realize the meaning of omnipresence.
Just like silence in language without which, speech is meaningless.
The word “light” in the metaphysical language game, without its opposing term “darkness”, forms no meaningful play.
That is: Light is only playable [= intelligible] when there is the possibility of darkening.
Author’s note:
Meaning arises through contrast and distinction; words only carry meaning in language when a conceivable opposite or substitute exists.
There must be black against the white for there to be a concept of white at all.
Lucifer 2018, the devil at heart
Without the actualization of omnipresence within darkness (= Samael),
Omnipresence is merely a signifier without a signified.
The actualization of omnipresence in Yahweh depends on its full reflection in all levels.
If Samael, as the complete and absolute form of Darkness, cannot attain omnipresence, then The Presence, as the complete and absolute form of Light,
also fails in achieving total reflection.
3_ Intuitive Argument
When Samael, in the totality of his awareness, experiences the matter of absolute presence not through reasoning or assumption,
but as a direct, self-acting, intuitive experience, that very experience is a solid and weighty testimony to his omnipresence;
for Samael, in such a manifestation, perceives omnipresence without any mediation
Right now, I can see the real appeal of omnipresence.
With this dialogue in mind, this “perception” is not an assumption,
but the actual emergence of omnipresence within the sphere of his intuitive consciousness.
What is made present is neither illusion, nor empirical assumption, nor a report of experience but the experience itself within the very moment.
Or rather: this is an authentic manifestation of the reality of omnipresence within Samael.
