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Shouldn't the DC multiverse be treated as a Universal+ structure instead of Multiversal, since universes are said to coexist in the same space-time, just vibrating at different frequencies.?
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Low 2-C DC..?
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Nope.
If infinite number of space time exist within a space time, it is still 2-A
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Definitely not. The structure that overarches the Universes will rather be an extra-dimensional space.
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but these "space-times" are not separated four-dimensionally, but rather they share space and time, so it would be a main 4D timeline, which houses infinite 3D spaces (universes) vibrating at different frequencies. idk
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But there isn't that kind of structure, it's literally said that universes share the same physical space:
This invalidates the fact that they are universes with independent space-times.
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Not necessarily. Residing in a space with other space-time continuums isn't equivalent to sharing the same space and spatially connected to other universes.
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That doesn't change anything. One structure can host multiple space time continuum
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Where
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**** if I know the exact issue, I just remember it being yapped about by Batman, Flash and Supes specifically.
Was a few years ago so one of the issues is probably from the crisis shit, other two I'd have no idea, shit was like 2015 Flash.
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Ok, but here again Flash explains by making an analogy to the universes, how 2 objects can occupy the same space and the same time, just vibrating at different frequencies. Like there is no way to deny such a clear mention.
The whole multiverse share time and space, making it a low 2-C structure as whole, instead of 2-A
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That's contradictable by the same space being called a Multiverse many times, and the House of Heroes's existence implies the Universes are seperated
You know there's a reason why spaces like Universe 7 isn't ranked at Low 2-C depsite the fact all of its space time continuum shares a same space? Same logic here
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Well yes, a multiverse of several 3D universes within the same space and time, sharing the same timeline and physical space, only separated by vibrational barriers. Can't see contradiction. Still low 2-C.
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"Multiverse" already implies 2-C at minimum. You can't have a multiverse without seperate timelines. Seem like you visibly don't know what it is
3D Spaces don't contain space times. They are all 4D
The mention of a Multiverse outweights Barry's statement and debunks his entire statement.
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To add to this, its litterally implied that Universes are parallel. That wouldn't be possible if they were sharing the same space (in the sense of timeline)
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Bro, none of your scans even say 3D space, yet we got a fucktrillion examples calling unis 4D, or space-times, or yadda yadda.
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Nominalistic fallacy here. I can use that same logic and say that universe 7 is only one universe (a single space-time) because it is called a universe, when it has been argued here that it is a small multiverse by housing other universal structures. It is all about demonstrating the composition of those structures rather than using the name of them as an argument. You have to show me where it says that the individual DC universes have their own space-time, and do not share it, as is said several times in many comics.
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Define "Multiverse" for me. Low 2-C tiering isn't for Multiversal structure.
Read:
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bro did you read what i wrote? because what you just said is redundant..
Yeah, they are called parallel, and they are also said to share space time:
Even in recent comics:
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You keep ignoring evidence but whatever
The same scan implies they are seperate and even calls them parallel to each other lol. There is no mention of the Universes sharing the same space-time, it only says the same space
Notice how this never implies they share the same timeline, but share the same big space, like any Multiverse in fiction would? Looking at the map of the Multiverse, what he said doesn't contradict anything and makes perfect sense
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"You keep ignoring evidence but whatever"You keep ignoring evidence but whatever
The same scan implies they are seperate and even calls them parallel to each other lol. There is no mention of the Universes sharing the same space-time, it only says the same space
Notice how this never implies they share the same timeline, but share the same big space, like any Multiverse in fiction would? Looking at the map of the Multiverse, what he said doesn't contradict anything and makes perfect sense
Sir, what evidence?
"There is no mention of the Universes sharing the same space-time"
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Nice try going circular, but what u sent afterwards further debunks Barry's words.
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How? Saying is "parallel"?
That doesn't really refute anything, because it's not that the universes are packed together like sand, No. they are separated by vibrational barriers. Now, you have to show me that this separation is spatiotemporal, and not merely physical. Because what Flash says is very clear.
Universes occupy the same space and time
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So what?
Fun fact: Parallel Universe = Seperate Universes. That's the basis of having a Multiversal Tier structure
Prove that what Flash said is consistant to begin with.
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Ok, prove that the separation in DC (not in general basis) is spatiotemporal
Why wouldn't it be inconsistent?
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The fact they are alternate universes is enough, and there's the existence of the Bleed which is the interdimensional plane which spaces each Universes (also shown in the map)
Bc there's many scans that contradicts it. You can't have parrallel (in other words, alternate) Universes in a singular timeline. That's simply impossible, and the Universes being seperated interdimensionaly further stomps on Barry's statement
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They obviously don't share the same TIME in space time since some universes are further in the past or future than others:
In addition, it's stated every universe has multiple timelines
In addition, it's stated every universe has multiple timelines
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We also saw it in Justice League vol 4 #31 that a single universe has hundreds of possible futures
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The same ""space"" they exist is just the Bleed space which is higher dimension, we had that explained in the cosmology blog
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Shouldn't the DC “Multiverse” be treated as “Universal+” is such a counterintuitive statement. Yeah, it remains what it is.
