Lotso (ToyStory 3) probably 10-A

[Nikito9009]

Lotso could reach level 10-A because he was able to open a door with a single blow. Assuming the door wasn't locked, that requires a force of between 150 and 300 joules (10-A). If the door was locked, it would definitely be a 9-C feat, but I consider that unlikely.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Talking about the switch that stops the incinerator? I don't think Lotso ever tried to stop all that.

 

[Nikito9009]

Talking about the switch that stops the incinerator? I don't think Lotso ever tried to stop all that.

No, I mean the scene where the telephone explains the security system to Woody. When the monkey alerts the guards that a toy is trying to escape, Lotso, with a single blow, opens the door so forcefully that you can hear it hit the wall.

 

[Nikito9009]

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

No, I mean the scene where the telephone explains the security system to Woody. When the monkey alerts the guards that a toy is trying to escape, Lotso, with a single blow, opens the door so forcefully that you can hear it hit the wall.

Nvm then, There was no video link in the OP. It's kind of mandatory to include things like that when you make a content revision. I'd probably accept it right away if there was.

 

[Nikito9009]

Nvm then, There was no video link in the OP. It's kind of mandatory to include things like that when you make a content revision. I'd probably accept it right away if there was.

I'm sorry, I'm new to this and there are things I have to learn, and obviously anyone can understand that. I apologize for my mistake.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Thank you
But actually, do we even know if Lotso did that by himself or if it was a group effort? Usually, toys just climb each other forming towers to just open the door knobs.

 

[Nikito9009]

Thank you
But actually, do we even know if Lotso did that by himself or if it was a group effort? Usually, toys just climb each other forming towers to just open the door knobs.

I was wondering the same thing, but there doesn't seem to be anyone hanging from the doorknob. Besides, the blow Lotso gives the door sounds like a loud impact, and the fact that the door slams into the wall confirms that. It's obvious that scene is meant to make him look intimidating, but it's actually a pretty impressive feat for a toy.

 

[Nikito9009]

Lotso's henchmen are simply behind him; no toy tower is visible.

 

[Thelastmlg]

Yeah looking at that scene, is clear that lotso was the one pushing the door away alone

 

[Nikito9009]

Yeah looking at that scene, is clear that lotso was the one pushing the door away alone

Furthermore, you can see how the door is completely closed until Lotso bangs on it to open it, and besides hearing the loud bang, you can also hear the door latch give way. I said latch; I don't know what you call the wedge-shaped part that keeps the door closed without being locked.
I'm using a translator, so I apologize for any grammatical errors.

 

[Nikito9009]

Yeah looking at that scene, is clear that lotso was the one pushing the door away alone

Here are the links to some images showing the door locks at Sunnyside. I apologize for the delay; I had to free up some storage space.

 

[Random-Helper323]

Doors are often misunderstood in terms of how hard it is to force them open. Especially interior doors. In truth, the striker plate and the door jamb make up the entirety of the resistance to being forced open. It's usually just the strength of two short screws in wood and a thin strip of wood in front.

 

[Just_Butchering]

Why don't toys scale to their own durability?

 

[Nikito9009]

Doors are often misunderstood in terms of how hard it is to force them open. Especially interior doors. In truth, the striker plate and the door jamb make up the entirety of the resistance to being forced open. It's usually just the strength of two short screws in wood and a thin strip of wood in front.

You all know much more about this than I do. Lotso's feat should be at least 10-B, right?
That's why I said "probably 10-A" since I wasn't completely sure he'd reach that level.

 

[Nikito9009]

Another feat that could be considered 10-B is the fact that he shattered a hard plastic heart with just two vertical blows of his cane handle. Even the thick metal lid of the container vibrates due to the force Lotso exerts with those impacts.

 

[Cropfist]

Why don't toys scale to their own durability?

Toys never deal serious damage to each other, only superficial pain

 

[Just_Butchering]

Toys never deal serious damage to each other, only superficial pain

Wouldn't they at least downscale? Besides even the TV didn't do serious damage to Buzz.

 

[Nikito9009]

If Lotso's feats reach 10-A or at least 10-B, then all the other toys automatically scale to that level, right? Or am I wrong?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Why don't toys scale to their own durability?

The Toys are consistently treated like stonewalls; and making each other go oof isn't really evidence for scaling. Also, a lot of running gags for why the toys are so durable is due to things like the cast being made of fluff or plastic; that can otherwise survive great falls. Getting unscrewed or sharp/pointy things causing Woody's arm to rip off are kind of different precision levels rather than just the classic "energy = damage" fallacy.

 

[Random-Helper323]

If Lotso's feats reach 10-A or at least 10-B, then all the other toys automatically scale to that level, right? Or am I wrong?

Only if they are shown to be comparable.

 

[Nikito9009]

Please. Considering these feats, can Lotso's profile be upgraded to 10-B?

 

[AceOfSpaces3709]

Looking at the door scene, it's pretty clear that Lotso pushes it open. We can all push open doors quickly, but that doesn't make any of us 10-A. My late cat could push open unlatched doors with his head. I've also seen dogs (Both big and small) push open doors either with their heads or by standing on their hind legs and pushing with their front . Given the context of the film, only the doors to the classrooms are locked, not the ones that lead to the bathroom. Those doors also don't appear to have a proper lockset, as Big Baby opened it all by himself, and he isn't an acrobatic type like Buzz or Jessie.

Another feat that could be considered 10-B is the fact that he shattered a hard plastic heart with just two vertical blows of his cane handle. Even the thick metal lid of the container vibrates due to the force Lotso exerts with those impacts.

Watching the clip, I don't see the trash lid vibrating when Lotso slams his cane, and breaking a small plastic heart isn't really that impressive as any of us can do the exact same thing with zero effort.

 

[Nikito9009]

Looking at the door scene, it's pretty clear that Lotso pushes it open. We can all push open doors quickly, but that doesn't make any of us 10-A. My late cat could push open unlatched doors with his head. I've also seen dogs (Both big and small) push open doors either with their heads or by standing on their hind legs and pushing with their front . Given the context of the film, only the doors to the classrooms are locked, not the ones that lead to the bathroom. Those doors also don't appear to have a proper lockset, as Big Baby opened it all by himself, and he isn't an acrobatic type like Buzz or Jessie.


Watching the clip, I don't see the trash lid vibrating when Lotso slams his cane, and breaking a small plastic heart isn't really that impressive as any of us can do the exact same thing with zero effort.

In the scene, you can hear Lotso clearly banging on the door, but as I mentioned, it's most likely not locked like the main doors.
I'd like to know how much force it takes to break that hard plastic heart, since obviously any human being can do it. But it requires exerting a certain amount of force to destroy it like that; everyone knows that, and if you pay attention, you can notice the metal lid vibrating slightly.

 

[Nikito9009]

Looking at the door scene, it's pretty clear that Lotso pushes it open. We can all push open doors quickly, but that doesn't make any of us 10-A. My late cat could push open unlatched doors with his head. I've also seen dogs (Both big and small) push open doors either with their heads or by standing on their hind legs and pushing with their front . Given the context of the film, only the doors to the classrooms are locked, not the ones that lead to the bathroom. Those doors also don't appear to have a proper lockset, as Big Baby opened it all by himself, and he isn't an acrobatic type like Buzz or Jessie.


Watching the clip, I don't see the trash lid vibrating when Lotso slams his cane, and breaking a small plastic heart isn't really that impressive as any of us can do the exact same thing with zero effort.

The force required to break plastic is quite relative. When it comes to objects like shower grates or simple baskets, it doesn't take much force to destroy them. But in cases like the plastic heart in the scene, some lids, or any plastic object with raised details, things change, as it takes considerably more force to break them. I know this is something anyone with a modicum of common sense can understand, but it didn't hurt to clarify.