Lookism Discussion Thread

[Kakistan]

I don't think that was the intended interpretation. It seems more like Goo created an entirely new sword style after meeting Gun, with the 5th Sword simply being the first step beyond the 4th. He never implies that Gun is ONLY at the level of the 5th Sword; rather, he's saying that meeting TUI Gun was the catalyst that pushed him to develop beyond the 4th form.

The rest of the forms were created "for what's to come," suggesting he continued developing his style in anticipation of future battles. That also points toward a stronger Gun (someone we know constantly trains and refines himself, potentially with TUI or even PATH),facing Goo again...

It's pretty evident that the 50th Sword wasn't created because Gun only required the 5th. It was developed as Goo's ultimate trump card, something powerful enough to keep pace with Gun as their rivalry continues to escalate.

Narratively, the two have always been portrayed as rivals, so it makes sense that Goo would have something to rival Gun in some way. Plus,Ptj would never make Goo step far ahead of Gun, it's just not possible atp .

Well while you bring up PTJ not making Goo step too far, isn't that the point of the Prison Training? Inevitably, 50S Goo and TUI (possibly getting willful activation & deactivation like Shingen) Post-Prison Gun will highly likely be rivals again.

So then it's pretty blatant that he would have to be much stronger than HFG TUI Gun, even if Gun was at full health, in order to be rivals with post-Prison Gun.

And we also see this in terms of feats. Both Hwarang Paecheon and TUI Gun dodged the 3rd sword with ease, Paecheon then gets even faster and does something TUI Gun could not do to Goo: AKA blitzing him multiple times mid-air. Feat-wise, Paecheon should be operating faster than TUI Gun, as Goo was able to pull off 0th Sword faster than Gun could attack him (hell, Goo tagged him a few times across the fight), whereas Goo was statue'd by Paecheon.

Then 5th Sword Goo perception blitzes Paecheon from a distance. That showcase alone is more than enough speed to fight TUI Gun as far as we've seen.

Feat-wise, 5S is ridiculously faster than HFG TUI Gun.
Narrative-wise, 50S Goo should be able to match Post-Prison TUI Gun.
Simple enough

 

[Kakistan]

Is there like a reason why no one haven't calculated DG and Gitae's feat yet when they destroyed the church and more like Elite's speed, etc in the flashback?

The church feat has been calculated, it's at 6.05 Tons (High 8-C) and is listed on the verse page.

As for Elite's speed, show some panels as examples

 

[Aksh_sky]

The church feat has been calculated, it's at 6.05 Tons (High 8-C) and is listed on the verse page.

As for Elite's speed, show some panels as examples

And a CGD is in construction for that feat.

 

[Pettam33]

Well while you bring up PTJ not making Goo step too far, isn't that the point of the Prison Training? Inevitably, 50S Goo and TUI (possibly getting willful activation & deactivation like Shingen) Post-Prison Gun will highly likely be rivals again.

So then it's pretty blatant that he would have to be much stronger than HFG TUI Gun, even if Gun was at full health, in order to be rivals with post-Prison Gun.

Yes, W.

And we also see this in terms of feats. Both Hwarang Paecheon and TUI Gun dodged the 3rd sword with ease, Paecheon then gets even faster and does something TUI Gun could not do to Goo: AKA blitzing him multiple times mid-air. Feat-wise, Paecheon should be operating faster than TUI Gun, as Goo was able to pull off 0th Sword faster than Gun could attack him (hell, Goo tagged him a few times across the fight), whereas Goo was statue'd by Paecheon.

Then 5th Sword Goo perception blitzes Paecheon from a distance. That showcase alone is more than enough speed to fight TUI Gun as far as we've seen.

I wouldn't use a fatigued broken down gun to do this. TUi gun was always over goo, a healthy TUI gun would've done infinitely better in their match up. James pretty much implies that the only way Goo would've won was to make fun get weaker and weaker. The same gun who was significantly fatigued to begin with.

Feat-wise, 5S is ridiculously faster than HFG TUI Gun.
Narrative-wise, 50S Goo should be able to match Post-Prison TUI Gun.
Simple enough.

He kind of off guarded patch with that one slash, though I get your point. Otherwise I agree, 50s goo caps at post prison TUI gun level. Also, I personally take 'blitzes' in the verse with a grain of salt.

 

[Pyro9278]

Both Hwarang Paecheon and TUI Gun dodged the 3rd sword with ease, Paecheon then gets even faster and does something TUI Gun could not do to Goo: AKA blitzing him multiple times mid-air. Feat-wise, Paecheon should be operating faster than TUI Gun, as Goo was able to pull off 0th Sword faster than Gun could attack him (hell, Goo tagged him a few times across the fight), whereas Goo was statue'd by Paecheon.

Then 5th Sword Goo perception blitzes Paecheon from a distance. That showcase alone is more than enough speed to fight TUI Gun as far as we've seen.

Feat-wise, 5S is ridiculously faster than HFG TUI Gun.
Narrative-wise, 50S Goo should be able to match Post-Prison TUI Gun.
Simple enough

Goo could have destroyed Paecheon Jo even with 4S. We’ve known this since he started making those "threats" while they were fighting.

Objectively, it makes more sense that Goo was holding back with 4S than to claim that 50S increased his reaction speed. That is also precisely why Paecheon Jo is rated 9-A and doesn't scale to Goo.

 

[Pyro9278]

Goo could have destroyed Paecheon Jo even with 4S. We’ve known this since he started making those "threats" while they were fighting.

Objectively, it makes more sense that Goo was holding back with 4S than to claim that 50S increased his reaction speed. That is also precisely why Paecheon Jo is rated 9-A and doesn't scale to Goo.

So, technically, what Goo did against Paecheon Jo isn't even a feat; it just made it clear how fast he is compared to the others—not to mention his statement about preparing to fight Gun. The real feat lies in the AD and the speed boosters he receives.

 

[Pettam33]

Goo could have destroyed Paecheon Jo even with 4S. We’ve known this since he started making those "threats" while they were fighting.

Objectively, it makes more sense that Goo was holding back with 4S than to claim that 50S increased his reaction speed. That is also precisely why Paecheon Jo is rated 9-A and doesn't scale to Goo.

Hol on... You might be onto something here...