Limited Acausality immunity for DB

[elhermanopadre]

In DB, you cannot kill someone from the present, past, or future by simply killing their counterpart from another timeline (except Hakai but even then it can be tanked), for example, look at the situations in the android saga were future cell killed trunks but it didn't kill trunks from the other future and the baby trunks from the present timeline or every future counterpart of Goku, Vegeta and others, and the rest in trunks future timeline were all killed but didn't kill the present Goku, Vegeta and etc..


So what I suggest is, giving limited Acausality type 1resistances to all the DB characters or maybe say it on their verse page, that they have this type of immunity naturally.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

This is not how Acausality works; Dragon Ball's cosmology doesn't function in anyway that would grant anyone Acausality. Acausality is more like characters can survive via having their original timelines altered. But no timeline is ever truly altered in Dragon Ball, more or less that Paradoxes cause timelines to split and expand.

 

[elhermanopadre]

But type one Acausality says

"Type 1: Time Paradox Immunity: Characters with this type of Acausality are rendered immune to changes in the past and standard temporal paradoxes, but remain just as vulnerable in the present and can be affected by normal Causality Manipulation and similar abilities."

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Multiverse theory.

 

[Antoniofer]

Plus, paradoxes are not a rule, is factible to change the past but not altering the future; it has the effect the author want it to have.

 

[KingTempest]

DBZ multiverse cosmology is stupid.

Their alterations to timelines aren't like what you think they are (no disrespect to you if it comes off like that). Their changes are known as completely different timelines every time they're affected. I'd say those time rings that the Zamasu's wore could count as Type 1 Acausality, but then if what you're proposing is true, we would have to give the entire universe in Trunks' timeline Type 1 Acausality.

Different timelines in DBS = Different time spaces. It's dumb

 

[elhermanopadre]

Killing someone in the past and time-traveling is changing a timeline (in db it's considered changing history since , zamasu and black were bullying future trunks about that point. By definition it should give them some form of natural resistance.

 

[ChocomilkAlex]

The DB timeline is a multiverse. Its literally stated that Trunks is from a different timeline, which explains why Zamasu was still alive in the future after Beerus Hakai'd him.

 

[elhermanopadre]

The DB timeline is a multiverse. Its literally stated that Trunks is from a different timeline, which explains why Zamasu was still alive in the future after Beerus Hakai'd him.

Hum no black said , it,s because of the time ring that he didn't die , for hakai beerus was confident it would take down even that black in the future and both had time rings (present and future zamasu , it's the scene were goku black kills gowasu and gives a time ring to future zamasu)

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

I agree with DarkDragonMedeus.

 

[elhermanopadre]

I agree with DarkDragonMedeus.

But why, the Acausality type 1 still applies, not sure why you disagree. A limited Acausality type 1 resistance seems fine.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Agreeing with Dark as well. Close this.

 

[Ionliosite]

The hell is "Type 1 Acausality Resistance"?! This isn't how acausality works, and the quote you linked already gives Black the ability, so no point here.

 

[elhermanopadre]

The hell is "Type 1 Acausality Resistance"?! This isn't how acausality works, and the quote you linked already gives Black the ability, so no point here.

"Characters with this type of Acausality are rendered immune to changes in the past and standard temporal paradoxes, but remain just as vulnerable in the present and can be affected by normal Causality Manipulation and similar abilities."

As you can see, this would apply to DB , since killing counters parts of other people in the present, future or past will not affect the other counterparts but only create a new timeline. So yes a valid point here .

 

[elhermanopadre]

Agreeing with Dark as well. Close this.

Oh , the person from the pokemon thread that comes here ... ok.

 

[Ionliosite]

Again, that's not how acausality works, the fact a new timeline is created means that the standard for acausality isn't met to begin with. And Black's quote is a valid point since that's why Time Rings grant acausality, so no point on bringing that up.

 

[Daddybrawl]

People can be knowledgable on more than one verse, Elher. The fact that he has a Pokémon thread doesn’t really matter, lol.
On the side note, I too agree with The others. Cal said it best- Multiverse Theory

 

[elhermanopadre]

Again, that's not how acausality works, the fact a new timeline is created means that the standard for acausality isn't met to begin with. And Black's quote is a valid point since that's why Time Rings grant acausality, so no point on bringing that up.

I see.

 

[ChocomilkAlex]

Hum no black said , it,s because of the time ring that he didn't die , for hakai beerus was confident it would take down even that black in the future and both had time rings (present and future zamasu , it's the scene were goku black kills gowasu and gives a time ring to future zamasu)

Beerus must be a complete idiot because the Androids, Majin Buu and Dabura were alive in Trunks' timeline. The series literally contradicts itself smh.

 

[elhermanopadre]

Beerus must be a complete idiot because the Androids, Majin Buu and Dabura were alive in Trunks' timeline. The series literally contradicts itself smh.

But goku black responded in trunks saying why the hakai didn't kill him and black stated it,s because of the time ring, so beerus isn't stupid and he says that the space-time would be affected when gods kill each other.

 

[ChocomilkAlex]

He said that about a scenario when a god kills another god. Other characters are not affected because Dragon Ball's cosmology. Black already has Acausality Type 1, but other characters cannot get it due to Dragon Ball's cosmology.

 

[elhermanopadre]

He said that about a scenario when a god kills another god. Other characters are not affected because Dragon Ball's cosmology. Black already has Acausality Type 1, but other characters cannot get it due to Dragon Ball's cosmology.

That is fair, I see. But could that be added to their cosmology instead of giving them acausality?

 

[Greenshifter]

If you want the DB characters to have acausality in a match you can just have the fight take place in their multiverse.

 

[Daddybrawl]

Technically, that’d make Time Travel in general a self-BFR, lol. Not quite sure thats fair.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

That'd be a funny way to win though ngl.

 

[ChocomilkAlex]

That would be stupid XD

 

[KingTempest]

Isn't BFR like you have to be back in a week's time?
How would that work?

 

[Greenshifter]

A week relative to the time traveling character, that’s how I treat it.