Lilith Grimoire vs Flare

[Komodo25M]

Low 2-C forms used

Speed Equalized

In Character

Lilith Grimoire:

Flare (2099:Zenith):

Inconclusive:

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Lilith can do literally nothing against high-godly or type 5 acausality

 

[Komodo25M]

????

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Wait, Flare doesn't resist corruption

Nevermind, Lilith flexes and Flare gets turned into a demon

 

[Komodo25M]

Lilith can do literally nothing against high-godly or type 5 acausality

True. Plus, Flare can literally turn Lilith's own sins against her.

 

[Komodo25M]

Wait, Flare doesn't resist corruption

Nevermind, Lilith flexes and Flare gets turned into a demon

....Flare is a Demon. In fact Flare actually likes Corruption and can absorb it. Corruption still works tho.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Wait, Flare doesn't resist corruption

Nevermind, Lilith flexes and Flare gets turned into a demon

....Flare is a Demon.

Is that so? Well then

The Stone of Vale exists and Lilith gets all Flare's powers, then Lilith thinks and Flare get 2-A mind/soul/lawhaxxed into servitude

 

[Komodo25M]

....Flare is a Demon.
Is that so?

The Stone of Vale exists and Lilith gets all Flare's powers, then Lilith thinks and Flare get 2-A mind/soul/lawhaxxed into servitude

Yeah...a Chronos (4D being btw) tried this and got one shotted as a result. Plus Kazui has Power Absorption, yet couldn't completely steal Flare's Powers.

Not saying it won't work. Flare just resists it a bit. Also, Flare isn't a conventional demon (tho she is close.)

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

4D is cool but Lilith's hax is 2-A, infinitely above baseline

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

If that doesn't work than lilith dies as she has nothing she can do against high-godly

 

[Komodo25M]

4D is cool but Lilith's hax is 2-A, infinitely above baseline

Flare can erase anything that is weaker than a Xaran, who are Low 1-C.

Also, I'm not saying that the Stone of Vale won't work, it just depends on how powerful it is.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

the stone of vale's hax is 2-A, that's what i'm saying

So flare can erase her, but does she resist the hax

 

[Komodo25M]

Mostly, yes.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Let me emphasize.

Lilith's mindhax is amped by the Stone of Vale. Her hax is on an infinitely-above 2-A scale. It's instant, thought-based, and her opening move. Is flare's resistance on an infinitely-above-2-A Level?

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Because remember, Lilith is only High 6-A physically.

 

[Komodo25M]

After giving it some thought she does have a resistance to that kind of Hax. In fact the only time she got mind hax like that was because of Damus' mom Jena, who is a Xaran (a 5th dimensional being.)

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Has she actually resisted 2-A mindhax though

Resisting 4D mindhax is one thing, 2-A mindhax is another

 

[Komodo25M]

Has she actually resisted 2-A mindhax though

Resisting 4D mindhax is one thing, 2-A mindhax is another

Can you explain in detail? Because a lot of people said that Hax works differently, and it's really confusing.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

It's the difference between resisting mindhax that can affect a whole 4D universe and mindhax that can affect a 4D Multiverse

 

[Komodo25M]

Yeah, I think Flare has 2-A mindhax because basically every dimensional plane of existence has multiple Multiverses from the 0 dimension to the infinite ones.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

How many specifically. From what I've seen on your profile, it's Infinite Multiverses, each with infinite Universes. That's Infinite * Infinite, or Infinitely above baseline.

Comparatively, Deus Ex Cycle's multiverse consists of Infinite parallel universes with infinite branching timelines that form their own universes. In addition, each of those universes contains multiple separate space-time continuums within them, including: The Abyss, The Astral Plane, the Elemental Realm, the Mortal Realm, the many Realms of Gods, the Mirror World, the Dream World, and Dozens of infinitely-sized pocket universes. that's Infinite * Infinite * Several Dozen, which has constantly been expanding since... well, since time started.

 

[Komodo25M]

Well there are hundreds of separate realms in 2099: Zenith I haven't talked about yet, like the yokai realm, shadow Realm, and more.

And 90% of them are infinitely sized pocket universes as well. Heck Flare can create hundreds of Pocket dimensions which are infinitely sized.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Does she actually have feats of resistance on that level as a Low 2-C

 

[Komodo25M]

Does she actually have feats of resistance on that level as a Low 2-C

Resisting mind attacks from Hades, Athena, Osiris, Seth, and Morrigan at once (each of them can mind hax a universe.)

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Mindhaxxing a universe is just Low 2-C though. Even factoring in all five of them that's 2-C at best

 

[Komodo25M]

Does she actually have feats of resistance on that level as a Low 2-C

....?

 

[Komodo25M]

Well, she did ignore mind attack from Zeus and Amaterasu, who (along with Ra and Odin) could manipulate every Multiverse, where there are an infinite amount of. Also, each Multiverse is actually a multiverse cluster with at least a dozen Multiverses (each containing infinite universes.) in a Multiverse Cluster. And they can manipulate the other pocket dimensions as well.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

there it is.

Lilith gets stomped due to a complete inability to do literally anything to Flare. We can restart this argument once I update Lilith's page.

 

[Komodo25M]

Ok. Maybe Lilith wins next round.

 

[Komodo25M]

What do you think of this? Just Asking.

https://vsbattles.com/fcoc-vs-battles/100357

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Alright, updated Lilith's page.

She bypasses Flare's resistances and goes to town

 

[Komodo25M]

How so, cause I don't see anything different but more powers.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Resistance Negation

 

[Komodo25M]

Actually Flare does have Resistance to Resistance Negation.

 

[Komodo25M]

How does the Stone of Vale's Resistance Negation works?

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Attacking from a higher plane of existence by directly manipulating Flare's law


Also flare doesn't have resistance to it in her low 2-C form

 

[Komodo25M]

Attacking from a higher plane of existence


Also flare doesn't have resistance to it in her low 2-C form

Flare does have resistance to Resistance Negation due to Kazui trying to take away her resistance to power Nullification and failing, but that doesn't matter if the stone attacks from a higher plane of existence.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Then Lilith mindhaxxes. If that doesnt' work then the stone auto-gives Lilith all of flare's powers and it becomes an incon

 

[Komodo25M]

Yeah this might be an incon.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

might. Still leaning on Lilith for then having Flare's abilities + Lilith's abilities.