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Liliana Vess vs Shinnok

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Both Low 6-B, Chain Veil is allowed.

Speed unequal except it still is

Start 300m out in The Ringed City.

Liliana Vess: 1 (ZellTemplar55)

Shinnok:

Inconclusive
 
I do need a bit more of an elaboration than that to count that as a vote. Maybe mention what abilities you find relevant and why.
 
She has life and death manipulation, power nullification allows her to negate Shinnok's more effective abitlies, not to mention life and death manipulation could also do that, existence erasure, and she has teleportation on a multiversal scale as said on her page, making Shinnok's BFR less of an option, plus a lot more solid and powerful abitlies but the ones I mentioned are the ones I see making a big difference
 
Ok, I can count that.
 
What stops Shinnok pulling the sealy seal

Note that even those with dimensional travel (IE: Shinnok himself) can't get out of that hecker
 
Countermagic and better travel than what he's demonstrated sealing of.

There's also how she opens with death manip.
 
DMUA said:
What stops Shinnok pulling the sealy seal

Note that even those with dimensional travel (IE: Shinnok himself) can't get out of that hecker
Liliana has teleportation on a multiversal scale, pretty sure that she's not gonna get trapped, plus that can be countered pretty easily by simply saying "well what stops her from erasing him or even just kill him with death manip", he has maybe one way of winning while Liliana has several
 
Dmua someone may want to update shinnok's range, it's listed as planetary which isn't really befitting of what you just said about him.
 
Bump
 
So, I'm not sure what Shinnok's AP and Dura is, but seeing that Liliana's varies and she has stat amp, she'll likely take AP and Dura. She also has a wide variety of abilities, moreso than Shinnok, and better resistances.

The real kicker is the Chain Veil. With this, she'll be able to amp far, far above what Shinnok can really deal with. Shinnok's only chance is Sealing, which Liliana could potentially beat with Power Nullification.

Although, someone who knows more about Shinnok may inform me. Incorporeality is countered by Soul Manipulation, and Liliana's amp could put her abilities above the few resistances Shinnok has. Vote Liliana.
 
She usually starts with death manipulation- thought-based blasts of "You are dead" or fast beams of "Kill everything".
 
For one, Shinnok has Low Godly

For two he's non corporeal, so depending on the type of death manipulation it might outright not work

For three, doesn't he go "ha ha sealyboi or was that just a bit of a mishap on your part on the Kaguya thread back when that was a thing?
 
Low Godly and Noncorp are useful, but she also has Soul Manipulation, and the Chain Veil amplifies her magic a lot when used.
 
Liliana can already kill low godlies and can harm spirits and ghosts and stuff.
 
I'd say Liliana or Inconclusive.

Liliana because she can use the Chain Veil to overpower Shinnok. Inconclusive because using the Veil might kill her.

You choose where my vote goes.
 
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