Likely a 196,833-Dimensional being

[Azathoth_The_Blind_Idiot_God]

A little doubt, this scan is talking about same dimensional layer or common dimensions?

 

[Antvasima]

When Warren Ellis established the Bleed concept, he also established that the multiverse has 196833 spatial dimensions.

 

[DocAnimeTheory]

There is some sort of a duality because the DC multiverse is also infinite dimensioned.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, Grant Morrison used Warren Ellis concepts within his story, whereas different writers usually use contradictory structures.

 

[AndrewBennet]

DC Multiverse is infinite dimensional but GM doesn't seem to follow others cosmology .

 

[Antvasima]

Well, there are different versions of the DC Multiversal structure.

 

[Jonathanlighter]

then shouldnt thought robot be high 1-B if dc multiverse is infinite dimensional?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

It is either 13-D or 196,833-D with an Infinite-Dimensional larger creation beyond it, or Infinite-dimensional altogether.

 

[Follow_Doctor_Freeman]

To what extent of the DC multiverse did the Flashpoint affect? I have not read every single comic pertinent to thtat event, which may hold some answers to the uncertain extents of the DC multiverse. It may have turned the multiverse form one of finitite dimensions into one of infinite dimensions.

 

[Ryukama]

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I thought that the multiverse itself was 196,833-D. And the infinite dimensional stuff we keep hearing are areas outside/beyond the multiverse.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

@Ryu

I think they are one and the same.

@Follow

The only thing it affected was the Bleed. Sphere of the Gods onwards remained unaffected. No Crisis has ever altered the entire cosmology.

 

[Ryukama]

@Matt if the multiverse is infinite dimensional then, and Though Robot exists beyond the multiverse, why isn't TR High 1-B?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I would prefer it be like that, there are more evidence for him being such than only 1-B, but Ant was reluctant at the time and I couldn't convince him alone.

 

[Ryukama]

I see.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, it was because Grant Morrison referenced Warren Ellis' concepts, whereas we do not know if he even knew about any infinite-dimensional J.M. DeMatteis mentions.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Not just J.M. DeMatteis, Paul Jenkins' Deadman origin and the Lucifer stories also reference it.

 

[Lina_Shields]

We should find the scans of J.M DeMatteis, Paul Jenkins, and the Lucifer stories mentioning the infinite-dimensional multiverse instead of it being 13-Dimensional.

The references can be posted to the profiles that scale from this.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Well, I am uncertain. I usually prefer to not use the cosmological equivalent to calc stacking, or "writer stacking", whichever we should call it, unless it is specified that they use the same concepts, but I suppose that we may have to accept an upgrade for the Thought Robot and Mandrakk for consistency's sake.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

https://twitter.com/JMDeMatteis/status/829735612769005570

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/vjXuUJE-8N...FCVR_e5FYdk9MxGc3KTp0MecxCyH7XFuTgxpMbE=s1600

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/V5eMTi5jZI...uBTRE9RaroU8Kir2zrtcc6cmWyVwO01Jq-qwuM6=s1600

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/dbuZJUqhdS...HHGVOWH1jh8MVeDZKUvkU9xw5hWEj_Tz8Bb5Afavxm=s0

J.M DeMatteis'

https://twitter.com/mypauljenkins/status/818178924735844354

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/2rUhP6lfGy...6CMInCqdSK4a9-2r_5TiCeqTKdimSE1wiq8f3O8Wq9=s0


Paul Jenkins'

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:Absolute_Regen_2.jpg

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:High_1-B_Pralaya.jpg

More stuff.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:Beyond_Time.jpg

Infinitely layered creation

http://www.readcomics.tv/images/manga/the-sandman/48/16.jpg

Wave Functions

All of this, coupled with plenty of 1-A feats and statements for the beings who transcend creation (A synonym for the Multiverse, really), makes it clear that the Multiverse is High 1-B.

I mean, the Monitor Sphere is the highest dimension, surrounded only by the Source Wall which separates it from the Overvoid.

Edit:

Also, this is a gag feat for World's Funnest, but it's worth pointing out:

http://i.imgur.com/Mtm7xop.jpg

Mr.Mxy destroyed all numbered dimensions, even those with fractal numbers. The story is non-canon and doesn't scale to regular Mxy, but it's worth showing as another story that treats the Multiverse as containing infinite spatial dimensions.

 

[Lina_Shields]

@Matt: If those scans are considered valid, which profiles would be scaled from this?

And by that statement, the Source Wall would be rated 1-A, correct?

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Feel free to upgrade the Thought Robot, Captain Adam, and Mandrakk then.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

The Source is 1-A, The Source Wall is High 1-B.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Done.

 

[Lina_Shields]

@Matt: Are you satisfied with the result of the changes? If so, we can conclude this thread.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

100%. I don't feel like I'll ever need to discuss the Tiering of DC Tier 1s ever again.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I will close this thread then.