Lightning Farron vs. Shulk

[Senkoro]

Both defeated gods, both managed to save their world, who wins?

Xenoblade Chronicles was a better game, but Final Fantasy 13 had better graphics.

Who is more powerful?

 

[Senkoro]

really no one? I thought this was a good match.

 

[Non-Bias]

It's kind of hard to gauge given the power they apparently have.

 

[NotEvenHuman]

Wasn't Shulk MFTL+ or something?

 

[Cavvage]

I'd give it to Lightning just because of her OP time hax and type-4 immortality >.>....

 

[Numbersguy]

Shulk has precognition at insane levels (he literally could predict an omnipresent), so he should be able to predict Farron's moves and Shulk is faster due running from Mars to the moon in seconds.

I vote for him due that, plus the Monado can kill people with Farron's durability.

 

[Cavvage]

Shulk has precognition at insane levels (he literally could predict an omnipresent), so he should be able to predict Farron's moves and Shulk is faster due running from Mars to the moon in seconds.
I vote for him due that, plus the Monado can kill people with Farron's durability.

Problem is Lightning's Immortality... Bhunivelze himself can't kill her (which is weird considering he bestowed her that power)....

 

[Battler57]

Shulk wins but no easily

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Shulk wins but no easily

lightning as she is low 2-C and thus should be infinitly stronger than a 3-A character.

 

[Numbersguy]

Shulk wins but no easily

lightning as she is low 2-C and thus should be infinitly stronger than a 3-A character.

Shulk is 2-C too... not 3-A

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Shulk wins but no easily

lightning as she is low 2-C and thus should be infinitly stronger than a 3-A character.

Shulk is 2-C too... not 3-A

nope apparently they downgraded him to 3-A https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Shulk

 

[Battler57]

But if you created or recreated the universe you are Universal+. lmfao.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

But if you created or recreated the universe you are Universal+. lmfao.

no see. low 2-C is only if you recreate space and time as well. Not just all matter. at most that is High 3-A

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

^ Pretty much this.

 

[Cavvage]

Honestly, I just don't see Shulk winning this one... The only way Shulk can kill Lightning is by being more powerful that a Multi-Universal God (Bhunivelze)...

 

[Mikoto_Misaka231]

Lightning.


Type 4 Inmortality and DC.

 

[Mikoto_Misaka231]

Bump


Requesting permisson to add to victoris/losses if necessary.

 

[CaptainFalcon64]

They are both 2-C I say this is a steal mate.

 

[Wingding341]

Why is this in Lightning's victories and Shulk's losses?

 

[Lasatar]

Shulk killed Zanza, who had two Monados. Each Monado is a tool that can be used to create a universe, therefore making Zanza Multi-Universal. Shulk's Monado was more powerful than Zanza and both of his Monados combined, and while it took all three Monados to reset the universe, the new universe was built around different rules than the old one, therefore making the process more difficult, and who's to say that one Monado by itself couldn't have done that? We never got proof of the max or min that Shulk's Monado could pull off.

My point is: Zanza is multi-universal with two Monados, and Shulk is stronger than that. Take that! (in phoenix wright voice)

 

[Senkoro]

I like them both very much, but it's hard to say who would actually win.

 

[Lasatar]

Shulk wins through visions. They have helped him defeat enemies stronger than him before. When facing a character with similar stats, Shulk has got this in the bag.

 

[Wingding341]

Shulk wins through visions. They have helped him defeat enemies stronger than him before. When facing a character with similar stats, Shulk has got this in the bag.

Yeah, his visions are pretty OP.

 

[Cavvage]

can the two of them even be incapacitated in this match up? seems like a farce to me :/ I mean.. lightning can't die, time just turns back whenever there is a game over screen :/... Presumably Shulk has a form of immortality too i guess :/

 

[Lasatar]

By that logic, when Shulk gets defeated in battle, he just teleports back to the nearest landmark. In-game mechanics should really not be accounted for in everything other than Powers and Alilities.

 

[Dpool570]

Pretty good match up. I gotta say I have a hard time in this one. I gotta give it to Shulk though.

 

[ScarletFirefly]

Going with Lightning due to Time Manipulation and Immortality

 

[Reppuzan]

I'm also learning towards Lightning for her Time Manipulation abilities. Clairvoyance is useless if you can't move enough to do anything about it.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

I say Lightning due to what Reppu said.

 

[Xanix]

Going to go inconclusive on this one.

Shulk has better combat prowess, but Lightning has that Time Manipulation hax.

 

[ScarletFirefly]

bump

 

[SenshiDon]

I'm gonna give this one to Shulk. Lightning can manipulate time and all, but according to her profile, she can only do so for 75 seconds, and she can't directly interact with anyone affected by it, meaning that it's not going to do anything against Shulk. Plus, Shulk has reality manipulation, which I don't think Lightning has an answer to. Sure, Lightning definitely has the bigger arsenal, but she's gonna have to overcome the reality warping if she's gonna win.

 

[Reppuzan]

@Senshi

She has Overclock which slows time to a crawl and renders others helpless while she wails on them.

She has killed Reality Warpers before (i.e. Bhunivelze) who were going to remake the universe. That really isn't a problem here.

 

[SenshiDon]

What about the speed monado? Shouldn't that nullify the effect?

 

[Reppuzan]

@Senshi

He won't get a chance to fire it off if time around him is slowed to a practical standstill.

 

[SSBUShulkGod]

@Reppuzan

This isn't canon, but i think Shulk should be able to switch arts during Overclock and This is NOT A Highly Accurate source by any means but i'm gonna use the Super Smash Bros Franchise as an example, if Shulk can switch arts during Bayonetta's witch time then i think he should be able to switch during Overclock.