Legends General Grievous Key division proposal

[Epyriel]

Epyriel, he's going for MOVEMENT SPEED...

How is Malak slightly raising his arm to attack more “movement speed” than Kenobi slightly moving his arm to block?

 

[DaReaperMan]

How is Malak slightly raising his arm to attack more “movement speed” than Kenobi slightly moving his arm to block?

Because Legends profiles are weird and their speed hasn't been updated in eons. That Relativistic is for Movement Speed though, I know that much.

 

[Epyriel]

Tell me 1 EU source where he shows up and I will tell you all the ways in which TCW goes against it, in such a way that it shouldn't be used.

In Labyrinth of Evil he makes an appearance that more substantially contradicts 2003 CW than TCW, should we make a third key for him?

Just make two ******* profiles for Legends Grievous at this rate, Jesus Christ. They're basically two entirely different people with how the retcons have altered him so you might as well just do it.

Making an entirely new key to split what is supposed to be the same character just because of internal continuity issues despite the copyright holder themselves giving a clear instruction on what takes priority to resolve such issues is a bad precedent to set.

Whatever, I guess it doesn’t matter compared to the fact that he is somehow still listed as planet level. These profiles are hopeless to begin with.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

This is why Death of the Author is important. I don't care what they say when the character gets so thoroughly ****** by new material from a clearly different continuity so badly that he's basically someone brand new now.

 

[Eficiente]

In Labyrinth of Evil he makes an appearance that more substantially contradicts 2003 CW than TCW, should we make a third key for him?

That kinda dodges what I was going for.

Yes, even the profile of Legends Grievous in the SW wiki even has a big note at the start saying how LoE and 2003 CW contradict each other in some events; But like it says, other sources outside of them support both happening. The first battle where Grievous ever shows up on 2003 CW is referenced everywhere, even in LoE, and those last events in LoE are referenced in Star Wars The Essential Reader's Companion.

It is an inconsistency, but we can life with that. It doesn't state Grievous is by far faster than any human ever like the Revenge of the Sith novel, or that he was turned into a cyborg & they messed with his mind to make him more evil rather than him choosing to become a cyborg in a way unrelated to the Sith.

Making an entirely new key to split what is supposed to be the same character just because of internal continuity issues despite the copyright holder themselves giving a clear instruction on what takes priority to resolve such issues is a bad precedent to set.

I agree in that it is a decision to be done with patience, regardless of how frustrating it is dealing with Grievous' canon.

Btw, I recommend thinking it like this; If in 10 years Disney loses SW and Legends is made canon again, whoever is in charge may choose to fix Grievous by removing all that TCW stuff from his character. Me personally, I find some small level of peace with that.

Whatever, I guess it doesn’t matter compared to the fact that he is somehow still listed as planetlevel. These profiles are hopeless to begin with.

Well, we make 1 change at a time. I have my issues with Planet level, I think they're lower to an unknown degree, but that's just scaling. Someone could just look into it, make a list of anti-feats, and try a downgrade. Downgrade threads have happened successfully many times in the wiki, even if upgrades are far more common. Just roll with it until you or someone else can fix it.

This is why Death of the Author is important. I don't care what they say when the character gets so thoroughly ****** by new material from a clearly different continuity so badly that he's basically someone brand new now.

The continuity is the same, the character changes in it. If you have a Blue character that's made Green via a retcon, there is nothing to be done about it. You could make a pre-retcon version, sure, but not when all kinds of media are thrown where the character is shown Blue and Green randomly and you know the canonical view of things is that they are Green. At that point, a coherent timeline where they are Blue can't be made. It doesn't exist. It sucks, yes, but it is what is it.