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Lavos vs. Lucemon

Y'know just because Cal made that Myotismon vs Saga thread. I will not hold back here.
 
Guys, please make sure not to trigger each other and if that happens, go on a date on your message walls and make up with each other.
 
Now for some serious replies.

"Also, you realize this is Zeed vs Lucemon, right? ovo"

Not even close. ovo

So let me list my evaluation here.

Honestly, the main thing that kills Lavos here is his lack of resistances. Meaning pretty much all of Lucemon's hax will work on him in full. Lavos has some nice hax and all, but in the end Lucemon has much more variety and options to kill Lavos while only has like 3 or 4 at most. Maybe wrong, but still. Lavos has healing, but Lucemon stops that as well. Unless we don't treat Regen Negation as canceling out healing as well.

If push comes to shove this Lucemon can Digivolve into Satan Mode here as it did in Cyber Sleuth and would still be the same tier. Once in that form, his options increase exponentially. He gains Lilithmon's Nazar Nail and Phantom Pain (And perhaps LadyDevimon's "Poison"), Belphemon's Gift of Darkness and Eternal Nightmare, Daemon's Dark Spreader, Beelzemon's Corona Blaster and Primal Orb and Lucemon's own Dead or Alive, Divine Atonement and Gehenna. Not to mention the Demon Lords all present Type 8 Immortality and Karma. Also Resurrection is completely null and void here due to the Demon Lords' all present resurrection negation.

Overall Lucemon has more options to take out Lavos here in contrast to Lavos being able to take out Lucemon. So my vote is for Lucy 8.5/10
 
Isn't Lavos's resurrection summoning himself from another timeline? An anti-regen attack shouldn't bypass that, seeing how it technically isn't the same Lavos
 
I sure? Also, Lucy can't bypass acausality, like...at all. And Lavos will eventually figure out that sin thing, as well...getting rid of man is what he wants to do.
 
Acausality or Time Paradox Immunity? Also getting rid of man is not the only thing you need to do. You need to also get rid of the sin as a whole.
 
Why acausality ? I say, I do not remember analyzing this of Lavos in the revision that the acausality had.
 
You wanna see how I get revenge for you making that thread, Cal? Like this.

Bump.

And I won't clarify anything either because you don't deserve it. For all I care not even Lavos' Time powers are proved.
 
Aand now Lavos regens from it all... Couple that with insane BFR, his own hax, that crazy level of non-corporeality, and the aforementioned Acausality...
 
Actually the Non Corporeality of being non-existent legit makes anything with a purpose short of and up to reducing the TD to nothingness inconsequential to it in the first place. It's already, for all intents and purposes, non-existent. It doesn't really need the regen to that.

Ironically, it can still regenerate to Reality from nothing.

Edit: Still not voting but yes, he's now Zeed's pal

EDIT 2: Also like with BB, I hope the Lavos spam dies after these current threads are settled. Looking at you, Cal.
 
Does his Non-corporeality of being Non-existent really help him against a guy who can Erase Non-Existance?
 
@Mugen For one it legit hinders him to the point where that's more or less his only surefire option.

Then Acausality across space and time says hi as well.

Lucemon will be needing to erase loads of non-existent TDs unless he somehow unificates the endless timelines after killing one.
 
Let me explain this: Lavos as the TD can exist while being non-existent, but also exists in all the endless timelines.

Unless you end all of those, he comes back (when this thread was made it was "only" across endless timelines. But now that the revision of existing in non-existence got through, that's how ridiculous it is to kill it).

That's why I compared it with Zeed.
 
Am currently tired so I'll decide who i am gonna give my vote later, all I will say is I am really hoping Dragon comes out with a good argument on why the Lucy wins.

I Really wanna see Cal suffer. ovo
 
Same. That's why I'm not voting despite clarifying. Don't want any vote of mine influencing others or giving chances by being used as reasons above material. ovo
 
So pretty much he's just a bootleg Zeed. Well I have some counters here.

Acausality is the major problem here. However, we must also remember the fact that there are infinite Lucemon's across space time. So it will be a battle of Infinite Lavos' and Lucemon's. And there is also the chance one Lavos will end up running into a Low 2-C Lucemon and one-shotting him. Guess what happens. All Lucemon's gain a literal MASSIVE boost in power.

Sources:

SD4aqT2
GodrespectThread6
There is also the fact that when Lucemon takes out 1 Lavos, he sends him to the Dark Area and then Lavosmon becomes part of him.

Source:

In addition, the data of Digimon consigned to oblivion by the Digimon crowned as the Seven Great Demon Lords is not reincarnated, but is sent to the center of the Dark Area, and becomes the flesh and blood of the Demon Lords.
Not only that, but in each timeline, Lavos is committing a sin. Fighting Demon Lords alone is a sin. Sins are punished by Karma. Lavos is fighting Lucemon, i.e the Strongest Demon Lord. Ergo him and all his space-time selves will be hit with Karma Erasure/BFR/Whatever the heck it did to Dianamon...effect.

Source:

VxWeln9


Coming back from nothingness will be hard since the Demon Lords can keep Anubismon from bringing one from nothingness. Sounds like Anubismon is just getting his powers negated doesn't it? But that's not the case. Anubismon's powers are still active, if they weren't Anubismon wouldn't even bother trying to bring a non-existent Digimon back. However, the Demon Lords cancel that out. So that seems to cancel that part out.

But again, this is a fight that will go on infinitely as both are infinitely dispersed across all space and time. Meaning this fight will never end...<s>Unless True Lucemon decided to get involved. But then Cal would call foul.

This is my BS reasoning to why this is inconclusive.
 
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