Killing yourself for the win.

[Comiphorous]

We've had this question for characters such as the Creeper who literally do nothing else but die as an attack strategy, but what about people who can choose to blow themselves up into bits to kill their opponent?

let's take Hank J. "************" Wimbleton for example. in his first key he has a suicide bomb that kills himself, but luckily it scales to 600 tons and would kill literally anyone else around him even if they were two tiers above him.

if his most likely wincon were using the suicide bomb, and it kills himself and the opponent, is that an incon or a win for Hank, even if he died and chose that he'd kill himself even if he technically had more options beyond doing that?

 

[Mommyleona]

Incon id say

 

[MrTayman616]

It should be noted for Creeper that his winning condition is just "killing the enemy in any way" without including his survival. (imo)

Hank's a different case, as that's a normal suicidal attack. It'd be incon.

 

[IDK3465]

I think we typically list suicide kills as incon, even for characters where it’s their only option of attack, like the Creeper

 

[Peter1129]

Since this thread is asking about abilities and powers that activate and cause the users’ death I guess I might as well ask it here as well.

So would post-death abilities count as an inconclusive or a loss for the user. Like Bullton here for example naturally summons Greeza upon death. So would Greeza defeating Bullton’s opponent make the battle an inconclusive or would it be a win for the opponent since Bullton was already defeated prior to the post-death summoning?

 

[MaskedDragon908]

So would Greeza defeating Bullton’s opponent make the battle an inconclusive or would it be a win for the opponent since Bullton was already defeated prior to the post-death summoning?

Masked wants it to count as a win for Greeza and a loss for Bullton.
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But it's probably inconclusive, or maybe even a loss for Bullton depending on the opponent.
How long does it take for Greeza to kill the opponent?
If it's instantaneous, it could probably be inconclusive.