killer peter AP upgrade

[Gryogt57]

After some correction the value of the calc came out to be 284 MJ.
the list of character that should scale to it.
1) Peter
2)simon (he should be more stronger then mathias who survived the attack)
3)jin choi
4)nathaneil
5)yukia (should scale via ghost feet)
6)Simon
7)Alipede
8) thadeus
9)Philips
10)Dorothy
11)Sangdo(should not scale)
12)Yuna ( should not scale )
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agree: @Pxnd_013 @Viott @Hayder0772 @Pyro9278 @FinePoint @ActuallySpaceMan42

disagree:

 

[Pxnd_013]

The links to some of the character profiles are duplicated, and as for scaling, I agree with all of them except Yuna, as there is no confirmation that she can scale

 

[Viott]

I agree.

 

[BlackCat]

(Even though I still doubt the calculation results since they seem overly exaggerated, I will just leave it for now because I do not have enough free time to deal with that particular point.)

Alright, let us move on. In reality, scaling is rather difficult because the character who produced this result is Peter. However, aside from Nathanael, other characters should probably be listed as “likely” instead, which would be more reasonable, since there is no confirmation that they actually possess the same level of strength as Peter.

As for Yuna, I disagree, because she does not yet have anything that allows her to reach that level.

 

[BlackCat]

I took another look, and I still haven’t seen Dark-Carioca acknowledge the new calculation. I remember he accepted the 79 MJ one, but he hasn’t commented on the 182 MJ calculation yet. So, I think this upgrade isn’t valid for use yet; we need to wait for Dark-Carioca or someone else to give their input first.

 

[Vzearr]

Why are we using his head as a reference when his full body is there, that inflates sizes. There are so many other things wrong with this calc, I'll comment later on it.

 

[Gryogt57]

I changed it and dark carioca has agreed with the updates

 

[BlackCat]

I changed it and dark carioca has agreed with the updates

I still haven’t seen him agree with your new value.

 

[Gryogt57]

I was talking about the 182 MJ(he said it was ok in his message wall). yea he has not responded to the current one yet so what do we do with the crt

 

[Gryogt57]

I still haven’t seen him agree with your new value.

he has accepted the new end as well.

 

[Gryogt57]

(Even though I still doubt the calculation results since they seem overly exaggerated, I will just leave it for now because I do not have enough free time to deal with that particular point.)

Alright, let us move on. In reality, scaling is rather difficult because the character who produced this result is Peter. However, aside from Nathanael, other characters should probably be listed as “likely” instead, which would be more reasonable, since there is no confirmation that they actually possess the same level of strength as Peter.

As for Yuna, I disagree, because she does not yet have anything that allows her to reach that level.

I feel the same Yuna should not scale to it. then I think Philips is already stated to be near peter in strength as he tanked many hits from peter . peter should have used more power against Philips considering how peter wanted to save thadues and he used less power against mathias (because he wanted to get information out of mathias).
other should be listed"likely". so you agree with it now?

 

[BlackCat]

I feel the same Yuna should not scale to it. then I think Philips is already stated to be near peter in strength as he tanked many hits from peter . peter should have used more power against Philips considering how peter wanted to save thadues and he used less power against mathias (because he wanted to get information out of mathias).
other should be listed"likely". so you agree with it now?

I agree if the calculation is correct and has been accepted. (As I mentioned earlier, it could be improved further, but since I’m not available right now, I’ll leave the matter of accuracy this time to the CGM to decide.)

 

[Vasco]

Not all characters here are as physical as Peter to perform such feat and should scale.

 

[Gryogt57]

Not all characters here are as physical as Peter to perform such feat and should scale.

yes but it is clear that they are around his level and peter was arguably holding back to not kill mathias that is why I am planning on adding most of them as "likely" with exception to nathaniel, philips and peter himself.

 

[Crimsonobu]

yukia . why?
dorothy. why?
sangdo. why?
yuna. lmao no.
yukia has no physicality scaling outside of speed. shes above sangdo, and she doesnt even reach apostle level in the first place
yuna is self explanitory. 0 conective scaling or even a reason to scale to any single feat from any apostle.
dorothy. literally 0 impressive physical showings. being an apostle doesnt mean scaling to another apostle in the same stat.
especially when she literally relies on guns and has 0 punches or kicks ever thrown in the series. unless her weapondry is small building level somehow. same applies for yuna and sangdo again. they just scale nowhere.
yukia has a slicing weapond with 0 slicing feats or conective impressive physicality scaling. doesnt matter if peter was holding back. just means that they are that much weaker then peter in physicality . same as matthias

 

[Gryogt57]

yukia . why?
dorothy. why?
sangdo. why?
yuna. lmao no.
yukia has no physicality scaling outside of speed. shes above sangdo, and she doesnt even reach apostle level in the first place
yuna is self explanitory. 0 conective scaling or even a reason to scale to any single feat from any apostle.
dorothy. literally 0 impressive physical showings. being an apostle doesnt mean scaling to another apostle in the same stat.
especially when she literally relies on guns and has 0 punches or kicks ever thrown in the series. unless her weapondry is small building level somehow. same applies for yuna and sangdo again. they just scale nowhere.
yukia has a slicing weapond with 0 slicing feats or conective impressive physicality scaling. doesnt matter if peter was holding back. just means that they are that much weaker then peter in physicality . same as matthias

I agree that Yuna should not scale. Yukia should probably scale to Peter since he said " she possesses immense strength" in ch 32. that was after she used her ghost feet and was pushing back peter. about Sangdo in ch 10 he tanked 2 hits from peter and got up ( peter was serious since the lives of children were on stake).
idk about dorothy I added her since she was an apostle and could fight on equal footing against john who can take and deal damage to peter

 

[Vasco]

I agree that Yuna should not scale. Yukia should probably scale to Peter since he said " she possesses immense strength" in ch 32. that was after she used her ghost feet and was pushing back peter. about Sangdo in ch 10 he tanked 2 hits from peter and got up ( peter was serious since the lives of children were on stake).
idk about dorothy I added her since she was an apostle and could fight on equal footing against john who can take and deal damage to peter

Not enough to scale at all.

 

[Gryogt57]

Not enough to scale at all.

well I saw some lookism character scaling to gapryong kim feat by damaging gun. thats why I added yukia as well since she pushed back peter a bit so I was thinking of adding her as "likely"

 

[Pyro9278]

After some correction the value of the calc came out to be 284 MJ.
the list of character that should scale to it.
1) Peter
2)simon (he should be more stronger then mathias who survived the attack)
3)jin choi
4)nathaneil
5)yukia (should be atleast comparable to mathias in durability)
6)Simon
7)Alipede
8) thadeus
9)Philips
10)Dorothy
11)Sangdo
12)Yuna

Yuna definitely doesn't. They should instead calculate the feat of destroying ice blocks, probably at around level 9-B, but Yuna definitely doesn't scale to 9-A. Yukia may not be comparable to Peter in physical AP, but she could be with her technique. Sangdo it is not comparable. And the rest should be able to scale without too many problems.

 

[Crimsonobu]

I agree that Yuna should not scale. Yukia should probably scale to Peter since he said " she possesses immense strength" in ch 32. that was after she used her ghost feet and was pushing back peter. about Sangdo in ch 10 he tanked 2 hits from peter and got up ( peter was serious since the lives of children were on stake).
idk about dorothy I added her since she was an apostle and could fight on equal footing against john who can take and deal damage to peter

"SHE POSSESES IMMENSE STRENGTH" stated same chapter that shes nowhere near apostle level. we literally have her official stats.
the ghost feet are situational and thats not her actual physical scaling. she "pushed back" peter only via speed, (stated)
"eqaul footing as john" context ignore of absolute despair they never exchange a single punch its pure weapondry, she literally marvels at phylips strength. she has 0 strength scaling. literally an apostle due to her weapondry skill

sangdo tanked 2 attacks.... proev the levels of holding back he was on either. him holding back on both doesnt scale each holding back level to eachother. theres a reason the man isnt an actual apostle and got ragdoled easily. A tier killers dont scale to apostles. blatant fact. serious=/= going all out.

yukias stats are a joke interms of stregth. shes physically weaker then one of the 2 fodder brothers.
the stats arent really accurate. as if we go with them nathaniels the strongest apostle out there. (and has more speed then yukia and simon)

actually scratch the whole stats thing. its somehow the most inconsistent metric within the series.

 

[Hayder0772]

After some correction the value of the calc came out to be 284 MJ.
the list of character that should scale to it.
1) Peter
2)simon (he should be more stronger then mathias who survived the attack)
3)jin choi
4)nathaneil
5)yukia (should be atleast comparable to mathias in durability)
6)Simon
7)Alipede
8) thadeus
9)Philips
10)Dorothy
11)Sangdo
12)Yuna
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agree: @Pxnd_013 @Viott

disagree:

Agree to all except, Yuna, sangdo.

 

[Gryogt57]

Yuna definitely doesn't. They should instead calculate the feat of destroying ice blocks, probably at around level 9-B, but Yuna definitely doesn't scale to 9-A. Yukia may not be comparable to Peter in physical AP, but she could be with her technique. Sangdo it is not comparable. And the rest should be able to scale without too many problems.

yuna shouldnot scale I agree and sangdo ( only added him since HE was an apostle candidate) . I was only going off based on the stats provided.
so yuna and sangdo should not scale

 

[Gryogt57]

Yuna definitely doesn't. They should instead calculate the feat of destroying ice blocks, probably at around level 9-B, but Yuna definitely doesn't scale to 9-A. Yukia may not be comparable to Peter in physical AP, but she could be with her technique. Sangdo it is not comparable. And the rest should be able to scale without too many problems

so you agree now?

 

[Pyro9278]

so you agree now?

Yeah

 

[FinePoint]

Seems fine.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

As long as you've come to an agreement on should be upgraded, this seems fine.

 

[Gryogt57]

As long as you've come to an agreement on should be upgraded, this seems fine.

Since everyone agrees to the new scaling. I think this CRT can be closed