Kid Goku (Ozaru) AP and Durability Upgrade

[LordGriffin1000]

Alright so Kid Goku's durability is Large Building Level and his Ozaru form just says "Likely Higher" (survived Roshi's full powered Kamahamaha but was knocked straight out of this form)

The problems here are

Goku was knocked out of the form because the moon was destroyed not from the Kamahamaha, the proof for this is when piccolo destroyed the moon Gohan reverted back to his base so when the moon goes so dose the monkey.

Note: I am in no way trying to Justify Moon level dragon ball period, I know its an outlier and all that so don't get the wrong idea. I'm just saying the moon being destroyed is what reverts them back (that and getting their tail chopped off).

Goku's Ozaru form should be upgraded to City Level since Roshi's full powered kamahamaha is City Level and the one he used on Goku should be no weaker then the one he used on the mountain. Yes him blowing up the moon is an outlier but the moves early showing of power should still apply

For the AP like all standered dragon ball characters AP scales with Dura so his AP should be City Level.

Even if we disregard the effects the moon has on the Great Apes and say he was knocked out from being hit he didn't die and Kid Goku still could get up fight meaning it didn't devastate him.

So what do you guys think City Level Ozaru?

Again not trying for moon level just want to make that clear

 

[MeleeniumRXJ]

I don't think Roshi's Kamehameha ever hit Goku.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

I believe it hit him and knocked him down then hit the moon

 

[Anonimoe7875]

Debatable ?

 

[Anonimoe7875]

Le bump

 

[Qawsedf234]

Yamcha did say that Roshi would've killed Goku with the MAX Powered Kamehameha

http://www.imgur.com/a/t6yNL

I think (based on the dialogue), at the very most Roshi just clipped Goku

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Even if it clipped him it would have blown of whatever it clipped but when we see goku he is okay.

Their are two possible scenarios

1. The blast hit or clipped Goku and knocked him down

2. The blast missed Goku completely

In the manga it shows the moon behind Goku, Roshi fire the Kamahamaha, Goku (Ozaru) looks at the beam with his fur blown back as if it hit him or the force was pushing him and the next time Goku is seen he woke up fine and undamaged (though low on Ki)

@Qawsedf Bulma also thought a shotgun was going to kill Goku but before any training he took bullets and after training took a shot from a hypergun in the back of the head and it only knocked the wind out of him and he took a sniper bullet to the neck. A lot of people thought things would have killed Goku but they didn't and I don't think Yamcha could even sense energy otherwise he would have known that was master roshi not Jackie Chin.

Yamcha only knows that the Kamahamaha is a powerful move so he just assumed it would have killed Goku.

Goku is right over master roshi with the moon being behind him, Roshi's beam would have been incredibly thin to not hit Goku or curved it.

 

[Qawsedf234]

The beam did blow other people back besides Goku (such as the crowd), but you are right about Yamcha. I forgot that he couldn't sense energy when he said that, making it a baseless claim (compared to future claims).

But I think a clip makes more sense story wise than a full on hit. But at that point its a argument on author intent which can get pretty hazy. Ao if you wanna say thay he took it head on, I not gonna disagree to hard (I will say that most of the time, the beam either blows completely through or stops at its target)

 

[LordGriffin1000]

I'm not saying I totally disagree with you, he could have most likely clipped him.

In my opinion it just seems Goku was in Roshi's path

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Bump

 

[FTW395]

Funnily enough if Oozaru Goku actually got hurt by the full powered kamehameha we would not consider the moon feat an outlier.