Kenpachi vs Saix berserkers

[Soulgizmo]

Saïx

Originally known as Isa, Saïx is the seventh member of Organization XIII and one of Xemnas' closest allies. Known as the "Luna Diviner", he is a cold, calculating, and manipulative Nobody who directs most of the Organization's day-to-day activities. But this facade of calm peels away once he...

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Kenpachi Zaraki

Kenpachi Zaraki (更ざら木き 剣けん八ぱち, Zaraki Kenpachi?) is the current captain of the 11th Division in the Gotei 13. He is the eleventh Shinigami to hold the position and the name Kenpachi, branding him as the strongest Shinigami in martial combat. True to his title, Kenpachi is bloodthirsty and...

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Speed equalized takes place in the world that never was.
Zaraki:
Saix:
Incon:

 

[Soulgizmo]

Bump

 

[Soulgizmo]

Bump

 

[Soulgizmo]

Nobody interested?

 

[Soulgizmo]

Bump

 

[Jo-Smooth]

Can Kenpachi even harm him with his nobody physiology's intangibility? But assuming that he could, which Zaraki is this? TYBW or CFYOW? And how high into High 6-A does Siax scale? (Kingdom Hearts under tier 4 is blasphemy lmao)

 

[Kidkinsey]

both of them are just rage demons with little to no hax. I guess siax takes it since he can become invincible for periods at a time
inb4 soul crush idk if nobodies even have a soul aren't they just empty shells... Kinda

 

[Soulgizmo]

Can Kenpachi even harm him with his nobody physiology's intangibility? But assuming that he could, which Zaraki is this? TYBW or CFYOW? And how high into High 6-A does Siax scale? (Kingdom Hearts under tier 4 is blasphemy lmao)

This is twby kenpachi who has his shinkai.
Theres nothing he can't cut so saix can probably be cut. Nobodies are intangible true but kenpachi has cut things like the void of space which isn't really a tangible thing to cut.

 

[Jo-Smooth]

Kenpachi's NPI goes for spirits and ghosts and the likes, and he cut space with spatial cutting. I'm not sure how that translates to damaging things that don't exist. But either way idk the actual power difference between them calc wise actually since they upscale from their series' High 6-A stuff

 

[Soulgizmo]

Kenpachi's NPI goes for spirits and ghosts and the likes, and he cut space with spatial cutting. I'm not sure how that translates to damaging things that don't exist. But either way idk the actual power difference between them calc wise actually since they upscale from their series' High 6-A stuff

So if kenpachi can cut saix he wins?
But saix can become invincible even if kenpachi can hurt him so he wins.

 

[Soulgizmo]

I think that if saix can resist being cut in the first place then soul crush shouldn't be an issue either. Due to nobodies not having souls?
Saix wins then if he can't hurt him.
Kenpachi should scale to planetary though for real.

 

[Kidkinsey]

maybe the novel version not the manga unless he surpassed yama (who might not be planetary himself)

 

[Jo-Smooth]

Saix has resistance to soul manip on his profile but idk how potent

 

[Soulgizmo]

Saix has resistance to soul manip on his profile but idk how potent

If his physical power is on par with kenpachi saix should be able to resist getting soul crashed

 

[Mantidil]

idk if nobodies even have a soul aren't they just empty shells... Kinda

Technically yes, at least according to the terminology section on the KH universe page. It says mind and soul are the same thing, and that Nobodies have mind and body.

 

[Soulgizmo]

So does saix win via temporary invulnerability?

 

[Soulgizmo]

So does saix win via temporary invulnerability? He has to use it when he's pushed but kenpachi is gonna tear him up before he does mostly likely with his bankai first.

 

[Soulgizmo]

Any definitive answer?

 

[Soulgizmo]

Can kenpachi win with his bankai to negate nobody intangiblity?

 

[Purgy]

No, he can't interact with Nonexistent Physiology

 

[Soulgizmo]

No, he can't interact with Nonexistent Physiology

Saix win then?

 

[Soulgizmo]

Should be noted that saix can only harm kenpachi if he has better ap.
But if ken can't cut saix then they stalemate.

 

[Soulgizmo]

Can we get some votes for incon?

 

[Soulgizmo]

You would think Reiatsu could interact with nothing

 

[Soulgizmo]

Bump.

 

[Soulgizmo]

uh so nobodies do have hearts and the heart is kinda the soul

 

[Soulgizmo]

Bump

 

[Jo-Smooth]

Hearts and Souls are separate in KH. Xemnas said something about needing the heart but not the soul or smth, I forgot the exact context

 

[Soulgizmo]

Hearts and Souls are separate in KH. Xemnas said something about needing the heart but not the soul or smth, I forgot the exact context

Yes you're right. So saix shouldn't get Reiatsu crushed.

 

[Soulgizmo]

Bump

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

No, he can't interact with Nonexistent Physiology

Then this is pretty much a mismatch.

If Kenpachi can Soul Crush, he wins and there's nothing Saix can do.

If Kenpachi can't Soul Crush, then there's nothing he can do to Saix, who will just beat him down.

No matter what, someone gets stomped.

 

[Soulgizmo]

Then this is pretty much a mismatch.

If Kenpachi can Soul Crush, he wins and there's nothing Saix can do.

If Kenpachi can't Soul Crush, then there's nothing he can do to Saix, who will just beat him down.

No matter what, someone gets stomped.

In the games its depicted that nobodies can only go intangible for a limited time.
Kenpachi can hit saix by taking his own claymore and hitting him with it as well.
Id hardly call it a stomp just because kenpachi can't soul crush.

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

In the games its depicted that nobodies can only go intangible for a limited time.
Kenpachi can hit saix by taking his own claymore and hitting him with it as well.
Id hardly call it a stomp just because kenpachi can't soul crush.

Then I'm going with Saix. Kenpachi doesn't know that he needs to use Saix's claymores against him and it's not really his style to use another's weapon. It's possible but highly unlikely. Also, even if intangibility is limited, Saix is still able to do it at will or even when he's attacking on top of the fact that he can be come all but invulnerable.

 

[Purgy]

Kenpachi can hit saix by taking his own claymore and hitting him with it as well.

Kenpachi doesn't know about this nor has he ever used someone elses weapon against them

It's a stomp, Kenpachi has no means of harming Saix.

 

[Soulgizmo]

How is this a stomp though? Kenpachi has cut things that shouldn't be able to be cut before like the void of space. And kenpachis ap is higher than saix's durability in his bankai.

 

[Soulgizmo]

This makes me wonder if the organization 13 could beat the gotei 13. This is just crazy. Kenpachi is one of the strongest soul reapers.

 

[Purgy]

How is this a stomp though? Kenpachi has cut things that shouldn't be able to be cut before like the void of space. And kenpachis ap is higher than saix's durability in his bankai.

Because he can't harm him

And no, Kenpachi being able to cut space was rejected

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

How is this a stomp though? Kenpachi has cut things that shouldn't be able to be cut before like the void of space.

But that's not blanket statement for Kenpachi to be able to hurt any being who can become intangible. There are different forms of intangibility with different mechanics of how they work. Being able to hurt or hit one =/= being able to hurt or hit them all.

 

[Soulgizmo]

Should I just conclude this as a stomp match then?

 

[Jo-Smooth]

I mean outside of VS battle wiki Standards, KH as a verse should stomp Bleach as a verse, and that's coming from a Bleach fan. Can't wrap my head around KH being downplayed to High 6-A

But that begs the question, even if Kenpachi can't hit Saix's physical body, does Saix have a 'soul' that can be cut since Bleach for NPI for intangible Souls and spirits. Heart and Soul is separate but whether nobodies have Souls or not...is that even known info?