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None of them scale because they fought against a frivolous Shen who didn't even tryOverall, I agree.
Though about who scales and stuff is the real problem here. Kuroki should be comparable to Shen Wulong in terms of speed considering the fact that he could content with him, even though it was short. Gaoh Mukaku too (probably since I don’t remember his feat that well).
Kuroki too wasn’t trying. And iirc he could match Rei’s speed and defend against it in his match using pre-initiative. So there should be a few characters who scale to him.None of them scale because they fought against a frivolous Shen who didn't even try
Yes, but that doesn’t deny the fact that none of them gave it their all + people should scale to Mikazuchi’s feat in other ways.Kuroki's non-seriousness and Shen's non-seriousness are completely different things.
Kuroki didn't give it his all, but he admitted his helplessness and intended to kill.
Doesn't matter if they gave it their all or not. If I spar with a 10 year old and I throw a punch which they dodge, would they be relative to me at full power because we were both holding back?Yes, but that doesn’t deny the fact that none of them gave it their all + people should scale to Mikazuchi’s feat in other ways.
Wasn't he blocking by lifting something heavy though? Shouldn't that at least partially explain his need for it?i dun really care about the speed ones beyond stating the infamous "Kuroki had to train to use Pre-Initiative to block an 800m/s bullet"
AP ones i have issues with though. i left comments on them.
Yeah, what I said.Doesn't matter if they gave it their all or not. If I spar with a 10 year old and I throw a punch which they dodge, would they be relative to me at full power because we were both holding back?
We don't know what degree each character is holding back so we can't scale them to each other based on the fact they are both holding back.
I’m talking about his base acceleration, not the one where he was practically blitzing everyone.I also don't know what you mean by "people should scale to Mikazuchi’s feat in other ways." Rei was explicitly faster then anyone he fought, including Kuroki.
If Niko scales to Fei, so does Setsuna since they were on even grounds and could react to each others attacks and the same for Edward too.However, only Niko, Edward and Shen scale to Fei
So Kuroki doesn't scale to Shen then lmaoYeah, what I said.
I see. My mistake.I’m talking about his base acceleration, not the one where he was practically blitzing everyone.
I’ve got no problem with it as long as the others doesn’t scale too.So Kuroki doesn't scale to Shen then lmao
Inaba was in no way comparable to Advance Ohma.They were pretty much comparable to each other and could trade blows.
Didn’t they trade blows for a bit? I’ll recheck it to make sure.Inaba was in no way comparable to Advance Ohma.
You do realize that Shen is like >>>>>> to the rest of the verse, right?I’ve got no problem with it as long as the others doesn’t scale too.
Alright then most of the verse should scale to it.No, they clashed once, then Ohma blitzed him so badly even the narrator stated they were “living at entirely different speeds”
Yeah I do. What I meant was everyone excluding Shen.You do realize that Shen is like >>>>>> to the rest of the verse, right?
You kept implying as if Kuroki was on his level so I was scared.Yeah I do. What I meant was everyone excluding Shen.
I was only saying that both of them were equally unserious, not that Kuroki was on his level. Kuroki is still below his level.You kept implying as if Kuroki was on his level so I was scared.
They fought to a draw in that fight so that's not possible. If I fight at level 16 seriously and you fight at level 20 seriously but when we spar we only go 50%, you'll still be stronger, because I'll be at 8 and you at 10. If they were equally holding back and still equal after holding back, they must therefore have been equal when at full power (which as you say, is not the case).I was only saying that both of them were equally unserious, not that Kuroki was on his level. Kuroki is still below his level.
Umm yeah, I only said they were both equally unserious not that their power was at the same level. So I don’t see why this argument is still a thing when I’m literally agreeing on the notion of ‘Shen is stronger than Kuroki’.They fought to a draw in that fight so that's not possible. If I fight at level 16 seriously and you fight at level 20 seriously but when we spar we only go 50%, you'll still be stronger, because I'll be at 8 and you at 10. If they were equally holding back and still equal after holding back, they must therefore have been equal when at full power (which as you say, is not the case).
It's clear Shen was holding back more anyways, Kuroki says that Shen was only using one side of his body. In other words, Shen was more "unserious."
DD Niko and Removal Edward forms will be scale. Their base levels are weaker.If Niko scales to Fei, so does Setsuna since they were on even grounds and could react to each others attacks and the same for Edward too.
Can he even use Divine Demon? Though I agree on Removal Edward scaling since he was practically blitzing everyone there and was only getting hit when weakened.DD Niko and Removal Edward forms will be scale. Their base levels are weaker.
Said after every Kengan revision in history.This thread should be re-made with the actual scaling between characters.
Sure I’ll make it but I do need some helps with the scans, is anybody willing to help out?This thread should be re-made with the actual scaling between characters.