Katsuki Bakugo (Dynamight) VS Sasuke Uchiha (Part I)

[SuperStar]

Katsuki Bakugo (Dynamight) Vs. Sasuke Uchiha (Part I)​

• Fight Location: U.A. Sports Festival
• Starting Distance: 15 Meters
• Joint Training Arc Dynamight will be used
• Chūnin Exams Preliminaries Sasuke will be used
• CS1 Restricted
• Speed Equal
• Both in character

Bakugo: @Nierre @Acer__ @speedster352 @CiscoTheSoto @Baken384 @Popted2 @SuperStar
Sasuke: @DaimaouAshura
Inconclusive:

 

[SuperStar]

Bakugo's AP: 8.12 Tons of TNT and with Howitzer Impact: 34.14 Tons of TNT

Sasuke's AP: 18.58 Tons of TNT

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

So skill. Bakugou probably takes this? Haven’t seen part 1 in awhile but I remember mostly Haku and Zabuza trashing them in skill with kakashi doing most of the work of Zabuza and Haku being taken out by KN0. Bakugou in this key fights with terrorists (Nine and his forces), hired guns (wolfram), other students who are all being trained by someone of the best pro heroes around, and also that time he fought with all the LoV members at the same time, people who have fought and killed pro heroes with decades on Bakugou.

The Sharingan is the biggest threat here with it’s predictions but Bakugou fights at mid range with massive AoE explosions with obvious tells, so it’s not like they’d be hard to see anyways. However this is S1 sasuke (i think) so these abilities are incredibly low when compared to it’s higher tiered counterparts. Sasuke can still be flashbanged iirc, so stun grenade is a good move, combined with ap auto cannon for a barrage of attacks while Sasuke is stunned all using dura neg explosions.

Sasuke has AP and Durability but the Minute Bakugou figures out he needs to stay out of close range he will, and fireball’s are resisted (not completely ignored, but he deals with the heat of his own explosions or 5000 C.) and with durability He ignores it (mostly)

Also LS is in Bakugou’s court so his grabs are going to be very useful if close range ever becomes the final standoff.

I don’t remember Sasuke using much genjutsu here, he seemed to be much happier just throwing fireballs and ninja tools. And while the versatility of those if good, I don’t think it beats Bakugou just throwing out a mini nuke type of alcohol.

Bakugou’s true flight his also useful for erratic movements (which can be predicted but are still likely to be useful) and keeping the battle in his favor with great movement options. Sharingan needs line of sight for its prediction abilities iirc, so get out of it and Suddenly the pinwheel eye can’t sense the changes in the wind.

Also howitzer, the howitzer is there to.

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

Also sasuke is easy to manipulate emotionally with all his angst and bakugou’s taunts aren’t exactly going to be very helpful if he wants to keep his cool

 

[shansome]

So skill. Bakugou probably takes this? Haven’t seen part 1 in awhile but I remember mostly Haku and Zabuza trashing them in skill with kakashi doing most of the work of Zabuza and Haku being taken out by KN0. Bakugou in this key fights with terrorists (Nine and his forces), hired guns (wolfram), other students who are all being trained by someone of the best pro heroes around, and also that time he fought with all the LoV members at the same time, people who have fought and killed pro heroes with decades on Bakugou.

The Sharingan is the biggest threat here with it’s predictions but Bakugou fights at mid range with massive AoE explosions with obvious tells, so it’s not like they’d be hard to see anyways. However this is S1 sasuke (i think) so these abilities are incredibly low when compared to it’s higher tiered counterparts. Sasuke can still be flashbanged iirc, so stun grenade is a good move, combined with ap auto cannon for a barrage of attacks while Sasuke is stunned all using dura neg explosions.

Sasuke has AP and Durability but the Minute Bakugou figures out he needs to stay out of close range he will, and fireball’s are resisted (not completely ignored, but he deals with the heat of his own explosions or 5000 C.) and with durability He ignores it (mostly)

Also LS is in Bakugou’s court so his grabs are going to be very useful if close range ever becomes the final standoff.

I don’t remember Sasuke using much genjutsu here, he seemed to be much happier just throwing fireballs and ninja tools. And while the versatility of those if good, I don’t think it beats Bakugou just throwing out a mini nuke type of alcohol.

Bakugou’s true flight his also useful for erratic movements (which can be predicted but are still likely to be useful) and keeping the battle in his favor with great movement options. Sharingan needs line of sight for its prediction abilities iirc, so get out of it and Suddenly the pinwheel eye can’t sense the changes in the wind.

Also howitzer, the howitzer is there to.

I disagree on the skill point. There is no way Sasuke, who's been brought up desperately learning hand-to-hand combat in Naruto verse(where everyone is a ninja and great at hand-to-hand combat) is worse than Bakugou, who's probably had like a year of serious training.
Sharingan would be great against Explosion, since it's basically the exact same fire-based jutsu over and over with less of the tricks/variations of ninjutsu.
While Sasuke is easy to manipulate, Bakugou is sometimes even easier to manipulate.

 

[Nierre]

So skill. Bakugou probably takes this?

Not at all wtf?

Also sasuke is easy to manipulate emotionally with all his angst and bakugou’s taunts aren’t exactly going to be very helpful if he wants to keep his cool

Also I doubt Bakugo's gonna manipulate him emotionally at all lol

At most he'll probably get pissed by his fighting style (staying back and not getting close)

Anyway I don't think Sasuke wins this anyway. His only major wincon is chidori, and Bakugo can easily dodge it.

Bakugo FRA

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

I disagree on the skill point. There is no way Sasuke, who's been brought up desperately learning hand-to-hand combat in Naruto verse(where everyone is a ninja and great at hand-to-hand combat) is worse than Bakugou

Not at all wtf?

I have not seen part 1 in so long all I can think when I hear it is the Naruto vs Sasuke clash at the end

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

Sharingan would be great against Explosion, since it's basically the exact same fire-based jutsu over and over with less of the tricks/variations of ninjutsu.
While Sasuke is easy to manipulate, Bakugou is sometimes even easier to manipulate.

So no to both.

Explosions has many more uses then just “fire style but worse”
he pulls out flash bangs, aoe’s, machine gun esc barrages, flight, uses it in grapples, etc etc.

And bakugou’s easy to manipulate? He isn’t easy to manipulate, he’s easy to anger, which has a difference. Unless clouded by rage against Midoryia he still can use his head while angry and strategize on different fronts.

 

[Nierre]

yeah his explosions should be better than sasuke's fireball in terms of versatility and how both users use them

 

[speedster352]

Bakugo fra

 

[SuperStar]

counted all

 

[CiscoTheSoto]

I'm also going to vote for Bakugo due to his greater experience, greater range, and ability to increase the strength of his explosions the longer he fights. Furthermore, Bakugo should be able to somewhat resist Sasuke's Fireball Jutsu thanks to the heat resistance he's developed with his own high temperature explosions. And if Bakugo chooses to unleash his Howitzer Impact, Sasuke's done for. Also, the key being used for Sasuke is only for the beginning of the Chunin Exams, so Sasuke doesn't have the Chidori yet. That would be Sasuke's Chunin Exam to Konaha Crush key, which in that case would be a stomp in favor of Sasuke due to his AP.

 

[CiscoTheSoto]

Bump

 

[Baken384]

Bakugoat fra.

 

[SuperStar]

counted

 

[SuperStar]

bump

 

[TauanVictor]

What are Sasuke's wincons here?

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

What are Sasuke's wincons here?

Just kill him, he’s got over an 2x ap advantage

 

[Popted2]

Bakugo FRA

 

[SuperStar]

What are Sasuke's wincons here?

Sasuke has skill on his side, so he can probably go up close and pressure Bakugo with his 2 times AP advantage and has the Sharingan to prevent him from getting grappled because Bakugo does like to use Ex-Catapult if his opponents are up close.

Sasuke can win if he ends the fight fast, but it's not likely due to Bakugo's range. AOE, and passive damage and speed boost

 

[SuperStar]

Grace now begins

 

[TauanVictor]

Just kill him, he’s got over an 2x ap advantage

What? A 2x difference in AP is insufficient to apply hitkill or knockout to the opponent. Bakugo's ranged fighting style only makes the situation even more difficult for Sasuke.

 

[TauanVictor]

Sasuke has skill on his side, so he can probably go up close and pressure Bakugo with his 2 times AP advantage

So you are saying that Sasuke can approach a guy who is distancing himself all the time with his blasts and press him with a 2x difference in AP, and that is not even enough to get a knockout?

Or, Sasuke pressures him, Bakugo feels threatened and Howitzer Impact GG.

Sasuke doesn't even have Chidori in that key, there's nothing he can do here.

 

[DaimaouAshura]

Honestly Sasuke probably wins over in skill, think he's being sold short on that point here. He was overcoming Haku after he awakened to Sharingan, only got trashed to protect an incapped Naruto. He still trashed in range though.

 

[DaimaouAshura]

For real: Howitzer about 2x Sasuke's AP. Sasuke scaling to 2x Bakugo's AP. Why is Howitzer such a game ender then? This means that to do significant damage Bakugo need to be spamming Howitzer while Sasuke can dish that kind of damage with anything he touches Bakugo with. If it even hits because Sharingan was dodging Haku soundly while spamming almost imperceptible attacks from every direction at a surrounded and wounded Sasuke who just got the eyes, feels harder of a dodge than Bakugo telegraphing gigablasts. Character also matters here, Dynamight has jumped people on his own a lot. He has the better range but he isn't always fighting at the maximum of it and keeping distance. If Sasuke wins I don't know but feel this isn't as easy for Bakugou as this makes it look like.

 

[SuperStar]

So you are saying that Sasuke can approach a guy who is distancing himself all the time with his blasts and press him with a 2x difference in AP, and that is not even enough to get a knockout?

You're acting like Sasuke is never going to land a hit. Bakugo in character either fights up close or he can play range and then get in close

Or, Sasuke pressures him, Bakugo feels threatened and Howitzer Impact GG.

Bakugo only uses Howitzer Impact as a final move or if he has no other options left

Sasuke doesn't even have Chidori in that key, there's nothing he can do here.

He doesn't have Chidori because it will one shot Bakugo, the attack is like 8-A and the rest of his attacks will be on that same level

 

[Nierre]

It's not like he'll be able to hit Bakugo with Chidori even if it wasn't restricted.. Bakugo can just "fly" away

 

[DaimaouAshura]

I'll vote Sasuke with the reasons I gave. Bakugo is fighting a 2x times stronger, more durable, more skilled opponent who also has eyes of the plot privilege. Howitzer is to Sasuke what anything Sasuke lands is to Bakugo. Will it hit or not odds look very in his favor. And Bakugo's own character is what gets in the way of trying to range from hundreds of meters away all the time.

 

[TauanVictor]

I mean, when Kirishima injured Bakugo in the Tournament, he went straight into an explosion that knocked him out. Against Nine, he stayed in the air dodging his attacks and attacking with big explosions.

Against a 2x stronger opponent, there's nothing to stop Bakugo from immediately taking cover and attacking from a distance, and once he does that, there's not much Sasuke can do. Katon is resisted, Sasuke has shown no feats in genjutsu at this stage, and the Sharingan's Precog can be countered to some extent.

You guys talk as if Sasuke is going to completely subdue Bakugo by taking advantage of a 2x advantage in AP. Also, at close range, LS might be one thing.

 

[SuperStar]

I mean, when Kirishima injured Bakugo in the Tournament, he went straight into an explosion that knocked him out. Against Nine, he stayed in the air dodging his attacks and attacking with big explosions.

Yea he can easily knock out a wall level opponent with shit skill, you can't compare that to Sasuke at all who has better skill then Bakugo at this point and is almost 100 more times durable than Kirishima. Against Nine, he was doing both up close and ranges attacks Nine is more of a range fighter, so obviously Bakugo is going to stay in the air and keep away from him

Against a 2x stronger opponent, there's nothing to stop Bakugo from immediately taking cover and attacking from a distance, and once he does that, there's not much Sasuke can do. Katon is resisted, Sasuke has shown no feats in genjutsu at this stage, and the Sharingan's Precog can be countered to some extent.

Bakugo does not play range forever, he has never in character played range until he beat his opponent. Katon and Genjutsu will make this a stomp. I don't even think Katon will work on Bakugo, he will either use Howitzer Impact or just go in the air. I don't see how Bakugo is countering his pre cog either

You guys talk as if Sasuke is going to completely subdue Bakugo by taking advantage of a 2x advantage in AP. Also, at close range, LS might be one thing.

Sasuke does have win cons tho Bakugo is just simply better here

 

[DaimaouAshura]

You guys talk as if Sasuke is going to completely subdue Bakugo by taking advantage of a 2x advantage in AP. Also, at close range, LS might be one thing.

No, if I believed that I'd have walked into the thread saying Sasuke stomps. What I believe is that Sasuke's advantages are enough to make him win more often than not, instead of the contrary. And it's not just an AP advantage. It's an AP, a skill advantage a double skill advantage because of Sharingan and also Bakugou's temperament. Most of his showings aren't playing full range, he's not a Nonon Jakuzure kind of fighter. Thinking he will try to CqC or that Sasuke won't allow him escape all the time is a pretty well-founded thought. Absolute, not really. But fair foundation for me to vote on.

 

[SuperStar]

Grace is over, this can be added