Kai (Ninjago) vs Acheron (Honkai Star Rail) [0-8-0] (GRACE ENDED)

[Lloydblitzed]

Acheron and Kai are hunting each other down

Rules:
Acheron has access to Naught but cannot use her hax granted by Unsheathed Sword
Kai has access to the Vengestone Chain Gun
Kai's First key is used
Fight takes place in a jungle
Speed is equalized
Starting Distance: 5m
SBA for the Rest

Acheron: @AigerTheKing @AlphaOmegaV1 @TheOrangeGuy09 @Shiroiyo @VoidGoji @Voidnether @Lloydblitzed @Enryu_The_Red_Tower
Kai:
Incon:

 

[AlphaOmegaV1]

Literally what stops Acheron from just hitting Kai once with 12-D ~ Low 1-A hax that he doesn't resist and just instantly winning or just 1 shotting him with a massive AP advantage?

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Literally what stops Acheron from just hitting Kai once with 12-D ~ Low 1-A hax that he doesn't resist and just instantly winning?

Power null

 

[DaReaperMan]

Power null

Prove he can null those dimensions of hax.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Prove he can null those dimensions of hax.

Gonna restrict her Unsheathed Sword transformation thing due to it making the fight a stomp

 

[AigerTheKing]

Well huh Kai's fire attacks won't really be useful here. I can see Kai trying to restrain her with the Chain Gun due to way higher LS (or like physically choke her ig).

Lifting Strength: At least Class T (Elemental Masters are naturally stronger then normal humans. After unlocking his Elemental Dragon, got stronger to the point where he was able to push back and contend with Anacondrais, who could earlier on restrain Cole)

Kai also got good combat skills, but it appear Acheron is pretty skilled in combat herself, and will hit Kai with a Octobon Flash which pretty much gvies her the win

Octobolt Flash (八雷はちらい渡わた飛ひ Hachirai Watahi?): Gains 1 point(s) of Slashed Dream. Inflicts 1 stack(s) of Crimson Knot on a single target enemy, dealing Lightning damage equal to 176% of Acheron's attack to this target, as well as Lightning damage equal to 66% of Acheron's attack to adjacent targets.

Voting Acheron

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Kai also got good combat skills, but it appear Acheron is pretty skilled in combat herself, and will hit Kai with a Octobon Flash which pretty much gvies her the win

Can't Kai defend himself with Spinjitzu?

Voting Acheron

Counted

 

[AlphaOmegaV1]

Can't Kai defend himself with Spinjitzu?

I doubt it considering Acheron can interact with Elemental entities among other things, so I don't think a tornado of fire would make a difference. Plus considering the massive AP difference, she literally only needs to touch him once. If this somehow isn't a stomp, voting Acheron.

 

[AigerTheKing]

Can't Kai defend himself with Spinjitzu?

Higher AP so no

 

[AigerTheKing]

If this somehow isn't a stomp, voting Acheron

Its not cuz Kai got an immense LS advantage + Power Nullification and good enough skills for him to be low reletive to her on that aspect

 

[AlphaOmegaV1]

Its not cuz Kai got an immense LS advantage + Power Nullification and good enough skills for him to be low reletive to her on that aspect

Can he powernull 12D~Low 1-A shenanigans?

 

[AigerTheKing]

Can he powernull 12D~Low 1-A shenanigans?

12D stuff seems to not apply to her base form (going by profile)

 

[AlphaOmegaV1]

12D stuff seems to not apply to her base form (going by profile)

It does, as an Emanator, she naturally has access to this without unsheathing her sword.

 

[AigerTheKing]

It does, as an Emanator, she naturally has access to this without unsheathing her sword.

Ah...Well my other arguments for the fight not being a stomp still stand

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Wtf will Kai do against 12D-Low 1-A haxxy character

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Wtf will Kai do against 12D-Low 1-A haxxy character

Her 12D Hax are restricted. If it isn't for skills, Kai would have her restrained on the floor easily

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Mhm, well

Well huh Kai's fire attacks won't really be useful here. I can see Kai trying to restrain her with the Chain Gun due to way higher LS (or like physically choke her ig).


Kai also got good combat skills, but it appear Acheron is pretty skilled in combat herself, and will hit Kai with a Octobon Flash which pretty much gvies her the win


Voting Acheron

This seems fair to me

 

[Shiroiyo]

Well huh Kai's fire attacks won't really be useful here. I can see Kai trying to restrain her with the Chain Gun due to way higher LS (or like physically choke her ig).


Kai also got good combat skills, but it appear Acheron is pretty skilled in combat herself, and will hit Kai with a Octobon Flash which pretty much gvies her the win


Voting Acheron

Acheron FRA if not stomp

 

[VoidGoji]

Restricts 90% of a character
Still barely not a stomp

Acheron FRA

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Acheron FRA

Acheron FRA if not stomp

Mhm, well

This seems fair to me

All counted, just 1 more vote needed

 

[Voidnether]

Acheron one-shots FRA, assuming Vengestone works on Acheron's abilities as a whole. It still doesn't prevent Kai from being one-shotted due to the massive difference in AP. And if this fight would be like Acheron vs SAM where they fought casually & tanked and evaded each other's attacks. Kai isn't surviving.

Istg if someone made a thread about Luka to scales him to 3-C, Luka vs Kai matchups aren't even fair anymore (literally due to the same reason with Acheron)

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Acheron one-shots FRA, assuming Vengestone works on Acheron's abilities as a whole. It still doesn't prevent Kai from being one-shotted due to the massive difference in AP. And if this fight would be like Acheron vs SAM where they fought casually & tanked and evaded each other's attacks. Kai isn't surviving.

Istg if someone made a thread about Luka to scales him to 3-C, Luka vs Kai matchups aren't even fair anymore (literally due to the same reason with Acheron)

Counted

Acheron FRA + GRACE

 

[AlphaOmegaV1]

Can this even be added to the profiles since 90% of Acheron's kit has to be restricted just to make this even remotely fair?

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Can this even be added to the profiles since 90% of Acheron's kit has to be restricted just to make this even remotely fair?

Kai had a wincoin, so ye

 

[DaReaperMan]

It also can't be restricted cause it's not a higher tier

 

[Voidnether]

It also can't be restricted cause it's not a higher tier

3-C vs 4-C is massive though, and she's above the likes of Aventurine which just holds a part of Emanator's authority

 

[Lloydblitzed]

It also can't be restricted cause it's not a higher tier

Even so:

Weaknesses: Acheron is hesitant to draw her blade unless she deems it necessary. As a Self-Annihilator, Acheron will gradually lose her senses and memories.

 

[Tomfer]

And isn't that sword standard equipment? I doubt you can restrict that, even if it was a higher tier.

 

[DaReaperMan]

And isn't that sword standard equipment? I doubt you can restrict that, even if it was a higher tier.

You can restrict higher tier standard equipment, but for characters who are only seen with their weapons like Tirion Fordring...

 

[Tomfer]

You can restrict higher tier standard equipment, but for characters who are only seen with their weapons like Tirion Fordring...

Hm, I kinda hate how that's allowed... But oh well. Yeah, this match seems like a stomp if you need this much work-around to be even remotely fair.

 

[Voidnether]

And isn't that sword standard equipment? I doubt you can restrict that, even if it was a higher tier.

Yeah, Naught is allowed but what's not allowed is Naught deriving powers from Path of Nihility themselves. Which means if it's unsheathed, it simply won't derive powers from THEM or well. I mean if it's sheathed it's already enough, too massive of an AP difference one-shots Kai

 

[DaReaperMan]

Yeah, Naught is allowed but what's not allowed is Naught deriving powers from Path of Nihility themselves. Which means if it's unsheathed, it simply won't derive powers from THEM or well. I mean if it's sheathed it's already enough, too massive of an AP difference one-shots Kai

We disallowed restricting higher-D hax with no AP a VERY long time ago either so...

 

[Lloydblitzed]

We disallowed restricting higher-D hax with no AP a VERY long time ago either so...

She won't start with them unless she considers it extremely necessary

 

[Voidnether]

We disallowed restricting higher-D hax with no AP a VERY long time ago either so...

I guess it's time to make Low 1-A a thing for acheron now!

 

[TheReal7Cris]

Ache

Acheron and Kai are hunting each other down

Rules:
Acheron has access to Naught but cannot use her hax granted by Unsheathed Sword
Kai has access to the Vengestone Chain Gun
Kai's First key is used
Fight takes place in a jungle
Speed is equalized
Starting Distance: 5m
SBA for the Rest

Acheron: @AigerTheKing @AlphaOmegaV1 @TheOrangeGuy09 @Shiroiyo @VoidGoji @Voidnether @Lloydblitzed
Kai:
Incon:

Acheron FRA

 

[helello100]

Kai gets the everflame mantion treatment LoL

 

[AigerTheKing]

Kai gets the everflame mantion treatment LoL

He got Acheron'd

 

[Voidnether]

Kai gets the everflame mantion treatment LoL

Offscreen'd

 

[UltimateMoment]

SHUT UP FRAUDINJA

STRONG OFFSCREEN

Acheron W's

 

[Lloydblitzed]

SHUT UP FRAUDINJA

What did Kai do