Jojo GER Revision

[TheLegendaryHerker]

Why is Gold Experience Requiem 8-C? The stats of the stand are literally Null, since its basically impossible to calc its maximum capacity, and this was never shown in the anime. This would make the AP Unknown.

"Gold Experience Requiem's ultimate ability is to revert actions and willpower back to the state of "zero", completely nullifying them and preventing them from becoming "real". Hence, it is virtually invincible, as all "supposed" actions created by an opponent would have been reset (back to point zero). It is mentioned by Giorno himself that he is unsure of the exact workings and limits of GER's powers, but it has been shown that its range of influence extends from surface contact to even being in the mere attention field of GER."

"If the opponent is attacked by Gold Experience Requiem, then they will also continuously experience death, as they will die but repeatedly return to point "zero": the point immediately before the process of death (i.e Diavolo's endless death loops). Through this ability, GER creates a new "reality", as it calls it, for Diavolo as a form of poetic justice for the many times the mob boss has manipulated reality to his advantage with King Crimson."

Should Giorno have Reality Manipulation/Warping and Time Manipulation as well?

 

[Dvorak1902]

I agree that using Diavolo's statement is wrong. Since in-universe his asumption was clearly meant to be, well, that, incorrect. GER is not "a mere strength upgrade" like he states.

But his energy blasts were shown to be able to pierce King Crimson and destroy a stone pillar. And he also physically pummeled KC.

So maybe it should be "Unknown, at least 8-C"?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Causality Manip is essentially Reality Warping

And he already has Time Manip

 

[Eficiente]

>"Why is Gold Experience Requiem 8-C?"

Look its AP.

>"The stats of the stand are literally Null, since its basically impossible to calc its maximum capacity, and this was never shown in the anime. This would make the AP Unknown."

Wrong. Stand stats mean nothing to us. The anime means little and it wouldn't give a character a tier.

>"I agree that using Diavolo's statement is wrong. Since in-universe his asumption was clearly meant to be, well, that, incorrect."

He knew GE was strong, he got attacked by GER and thought it was even more strong. That much of his statement matters.

>"So maybe it should be "Unknown, at least 8-C"?"

By this logic every one time powerful transformation should be "Unknown, at least [the tier we give them]" and not just "[the tier we give them]", anyone who thinks this should go make a new thread for that, it's not a GER thing.

 

[Chariot190]

It's Stand stats are None, not Null, who knows what the the **** that actually entails though. Regardless, the at least we give it should suffice.

> Through this ability, GER creates a new "reality", as it calls it, for Diavolo as a form of poetic justice for the many times the mob boss has manipulated reality to his advantage with King Crimson."

That's actually wrong though, GER never made a reality unless you're talking about the novel and what he did to Pucci and when GER speaks of reality in the manga, he's talking about actions having impact and meaning, not reality itself, he's actually using flowery language, which while not common in JoJo, he's kinda explicitly using here (he explains what he means by reality even, meaning there shouldn't even be any confusion on that subject). And the last bit is complete head canon, we don't actually know why GER did it, it's poetic but nobody knows if it was intentional to give him a poetic end.

And I checked, you got that bit from the wiki, I then checked, Jojoveller, interviews, the manga and so on and so forth and couldn'd find anything claiming GER created a reality, other then the novel, which is mega ultra giga noncanon.