John EBG Resistances.

[Phsccarvalho]

That tracks. It shouldn't be accepted, but that's just the nature of the beast, there's bound to be inconsistencies in any human-run institution. Due to how lightning works, tanking it isn't really a heat resistance feat. That's all I have to say on it, really.

But isn't heating them up close in the air heat resistance? Like, on the ground and far away, there's that dispersion thing.

But what about near lightning, in the air? Isn't there that thing around 30,000 degrees?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

But isn't heating them up close in the air heat resistance? Like, on the ground and far away, there's that dispersion thing.

But what about near lightning, in the air? Isn't there that thing around 30,000 degrees?

It's not about the temperature. I'm not telling you those numbers are wrong, I'm saying you don't need to resist temperatures like that to survive the split-second impact. Humans do it with some level of consistency. Our systems of the wiki are imperfect, crude tools meant for approximations. In cases like this, it's absurd to assume we can reconcile those systems with the actual world, so my stance is that we just don't try. Being struck by lightning isn't a heat resistance feat.

 

[DaReaperMan]

It's not about the temperature. I'm not telling you those numbers are wrong, I'm saying you don't need to resist temperatures like that to survive the split-second impact. Humans do it with some level of consistency. Our systems of the wiki are imperfect, crude tools meant for approximations. In cases like this, it's absurd to assume we can reconcile those systems with the actual world, so my stance is that we just don't try. Being struck by lightning isn't a heat resistance feat.

Should note, with One Piece it's extended contact with lightning so they do actually scale.

 

[EmbalmerMaster9000]

So no proof of proper heat, not even melting things.

This is a Roblox game from 2016, adding Arcane Odyssey levels of environmental interaction is the least of the dev's concerns. It would be nice to have cool visuals, but the most we're gonna get is spell names & spell descriptions. There's spells based around lava, space-themed spells that are stated to turn you into stars, an element called "Solar" that is stated to create (miniature) stars for its attacks.
If I wanted to feed into your point; they could've just reused the fire patch shit from the Fire/Lava/Plasma elements (Fire burns the ground, lava creates patches of red fire on impact, plasma burns the ground with pink flames). No clue why they didn't reuse them for Solar element's attacks.



My changes would be this:

1. No acid resistance (it's unknown how strong the acid is. It can kill you if you stand in it for long enough, but it's not shown how it's hurting the user)
2. Possibly a resistance to being frozen (Able to escape Glazing Whail's freeze and even Vehement Blizzard's freeze, with the latter generating a giant ice sphere. However, it's unknown if this is because the ice quickly thaws out or if the ice simply disappears quickly)
   1. Vehement Blizzard's ice sphere doesn't last very long.
3. Possibly limited resistance to high temperatures (While they suffer damage from such attacks, they are able to survive having lava poured on them, which has been shown to be hot enough to ignite the ground on impact. Can withstand a miniature star colliding with them)
4. Limited resistance to fire (Via Flame Body. While they take damage from the impact of heat-based attacks, they are able to safely stand in the patches of fire left behind from them)

All this means in a debate is that getting hit by a miniature sun attack wouldn't immediately boil everything in their body and kill them on the spot and they can survive having lava poured on them. They wouldn't strategize and use the sun attack on enemies they don't think resist it because it's never demonstrated that heat-based attacks in the game have

 

[FinePoint]

I essentially agree with Comiphorous on this.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

This is a Roblox game from 2016, adding Arcane Odyssey levels of environmental interaction is the least of the dev's concerns. It would be nice to have cool visuals, but the most we're gonna get is spell names & spell descriptions. There's spells based around lava, space-themed spells that are stated to turn you into stars, an element called "Solar" that is stated to create (miniature) stars for its attacks.
If I wanted to feed into your point; they could've just reused the fire patch shit from the Fire/Lava/Plasma elements (Fire burns the ground, lava creates patches of red fire on impact, plasma burns the ground with pink flames). No clue why they didn't reuse them for Solar element's attacks.



My changes would be this:

1. No acid resistance (it's unknown how strong the acid is. It can kill you if you stand in it for long enough, but it's not shown how it's hurting the user)
2. Possibly a resistance to being frozen (Able to escape Glazing Whail's freeze and even Vehement Blizzard's freeze, with the latter generating a giant ice sphere. However, it's unknown if this is because the ice quickly thaws out or if the ice simply disappears quickly)
   1. Vehement Blizzard's ice sphere doesn't last very long.
3. Possibly limited resistance to high temperatures (While they suffer damage from such attacks, they are able to survive having lava poured on them, which has been shown to be hot enough to ignite the ground on impact. Can withstand a miniature star colliding with them)
4. Limited resistance to fire (Via Flame Body. While they take damage from the impact of heat-based attacks, they are able to safely stand in the patches of fire left behind from them)

All this means in a debate is that getting hit by a miniature sun attack wouldn't immediately boil everything in their body and kill them on the spot and they can survive having lava poured on them. They wouldn't strategize and use the sun attack on enemies they don't think resist it because it's never demonstrated that heat-based attacks in the game have

Nice to see you, Zany.

I think all of this makes sense, for the record. Even though they are damaged by heat, it's fairly justifiable they can endure some examples of it- lava, at least, should serve as the dead low-end, since it would be upper hundreds to low thousands degrees Celsius- the sun is irrelevant if they're still taking heat damage from stuff like that, even if we'd still call it a heat feat.

Hadn't considered the ice thawing or just being quick to break. Is everyone released in the same timeframe (as in, regardless of who is targeted)? If so, I'd take it as the spell... thing, just having a short duration.

 

[EmbalmerMaster9000]

Hadn't considered the ice thawing or just being quick to break. Is everyone released in the same timeframe (as in, regardless of who is targeted)? If so, I'd take it as the spell... thing, just having a short duration.

Yeah, they're all released in the same timeframe I believe, there's no way to influence it with stats. Arkan was trying to argue that the freeze ending was the ice being broken out of when there's no explanation of why or how it's disappearing.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Yeah, they're all released in the same timeframe I believe, there's no way to influence it with stats. Arkan was trying to argue that the freeze ending was the ice being broken out of when there's no explanation of why or how it's disappearing.

In that case, I'd just be against Ice Manip Resistance.