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Jay Grimoire VS. Bolt Arriaga
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And which resistances does Bolt have? Because obviously it ain't all of them considering he's only in his first key
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This of course assuming jay doesn't just yoink his stats and go to town
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Time Manipulation, Space Manipulation, Soul Manipulation, Mind Manipulation, Durability Negation, Power Nullification, Biological Manipulation, Void Manipulation, Fate Manipulation, Matter Manipulation, Existence Erasure, poison Manipulation, Diesease Manipulation, and Death Manipulation
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So he doesn't resist reality warp, info manip, or conceptual manip. That means sticky fingers and all of jay's abilities still work on him.
It's true that sticky fingers can't steal abilities directly; However, as discussed in the Ethan VS. Jay thread, Jay has no less than four methods of absorbing things, including abilities.
-Sticky Fingers absorbs traits by stealing them directly from enemies, this takes things like the AP gap and fighting skill. While jay can't directly steal techniques with sticky fingers, he CAN steal Bolt's energy reserves. The more electricity bolt generates, the more Jay sucks up. When Ainz hit him with an attack, Jay still stole the attack directly.
-Biting is used for foes directly, and drains them like vampires drain blood from people. Even against hardened skin, his fangs pierce people with AP advantages, and this CAN drain powers.
-Curse Magic has the natural trait of Deconstruction + Absorption.
-His normal aura can absorb elements without needing Sticky fingers to do it. Fire, Ice, Lightning, all that he can just convert normally, something he's taken advantage of every time somebody's tried to use those elements against him.
It's true that sticky fingers can't steal abilities directly; However, as discussed in the Ethan VS. Jay thread, Jay has no less than four methods of absorbing things, including abilities.
-Sticky Fingers absorbs traits by stealing them directly from enemies, this takes things like the AP gap and fighting skill. While jay can't directly steal techniques with sticky fingers, he CAN steal Bolt's energy reserves. The more electricity bolt generates, the more Jay sucks up. When Ainz hit him with an attack, Jay still stole the attack directly.
-Biting is used for foes directly, and drains them like vampires drain blood from people. Even against hardened skin, his fangs pierce people with AP advantages, and this CAN drain powers.
-Curse Magic has the natural trait of Deconstruction + Absorption.
-His normal aura can absorb elements without needing Sticky fingers to do it. Fire, Ice, Lightning, all that he can just convert normally, something he's taken advantage of every time somebody's tried to use those elements against him.
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Bolt has no prior knowledge and no enhanced senses to detect the invisible aura with. He also has no idea what any of them do or how they work until it's too late.
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Doesn't stop it from working.
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Arriaga doesn't resist absorption or conceptual manip, so Genshi is fair game. Energy Erasure just gets yeeted by saving throws or Jay steals it back.
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Cool, so Jay just uses any of his other abilities to slap and call it a day
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Nice No-Limits Fallacy
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So at best, he can prolong the inevitable as Jay continues to get stronger and eventually slap past his regen
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Bolt's Resistances: Time Manipulation, Space Manipulation, Soul Manipulation, Mind Manipulation, Durability Negation, Power Nullification, Biological Manipulation, Void Manipulation, Fate Manipulation, Matter Manipulation, Existence Erasure, poison Manipulation, Diesease Manipulation, and Death ManipulationKomodo25M said:
Jay's Abilities: Reality Warping, Info Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation
No he aint
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Jay can't reality warp directly. but all magic is reality warping-based.
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That's not even powernull tho, that's absorptionKomodo25M said:
and again, jay's is conceptual in nature which bolt doesn't resist
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you said those are the genshi resistances that bolt has. Something tells me you're just making this up as you go along.
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So jay just uses his normal, non-resisted abilities and steals Bolt's AP instead. Bolt becomes 10-B because jay's not stealing his powers and Jay proceeds to YEET
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It's not technically oneshotting since it's still attacks... but jay gets his AP so it is oneshotting.
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Yeah, that was done before it was fully solidified what the statstealing rate was. IIRC ethan could just energise back so i think the incon can still staySmashtwig said:
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bruh chill
