Is this Information Manipulation Type 2?

[BreezeHM]

Information Manipulation (Type 2; Spiritual Essence is the container for the Spiritual Energy and Divine Soul in every being. It is tied directly to a person's being, allowing one to control the life and death if they have the being's Spiritual Essence. Universe Worlds have their own Spiritual Essence called Auspicious Spirit Essence. Cultivators can overwrite the Universe World's Auspicious Spirit Essence using their own essence, which effects the World Principles and the biology of humans)

Knowledge Sea contains the Mind, Memories and Divine Soul of every being.
World Principles are the fundamental laws and building blocks of everything that exists.

TLDR: Spiritual Essence contains the fundamental aspects of a person's and Universes' being, such as their biology, memories, mind, and soul. Spiritual Essence can be used to alter the fundamental laws and building blocks of a World.

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

no it'd have to be something analogous to 1010 type binary or being some underlying code of the world or just flat out being called information that makes up the world.

 

[BreezeHM]

no it'd have to be something analogous to 1010 type binary or being some underlying code of the world or just flat out being called information that makes up the world.

What do you think about this

• Information Manipulation (Type 2; At the core of every array, there is an existing foundational piece that allows it to function called a Chart. A blueprint that is drawn by the Master that allows the array to function. Altering the Chart changes the properties of the array itself. Cultivators are capable of destroying Space Arrays/Spirit Arrays, which would include the Chart that serves as its core)

It should fit the "mechanism behind mundane magical abilities" criteria.

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

What do you think about this

• Information Manipulation (Type 2; At the core of every array, there is an existing foundational piece that allows it to function called a Chart. A blueprint that is drawn by the Master that allows the array to function. Altering the Chart changes the properties of the array itself. Cultivators are capable of destroying Space Arrays/Spirit Arrays, which would include the Chart that serves as its core)

It should fit the "mechanism behind mundane magical abilities" criteria.

not sure ngl for this

 

[BreezeHM]

not sure ngl for this

Alright I'll wait for more input

 

[Voidnether]

What do you think about this

• Information Manipulation (Type 2; At the core of every array, there is an existing foundational piece that allows it to function called a Chart. A blueprint that is drawn by the Master that allows the array to function. Altering the Chart changes the properties of the array itself. Cultivators are capable of destroying Space Arrays/Spirit Arrays, which would include the Chart that serves as its core)

It should fit the "mechanism behind mundane magical abilities" criteria.

Depends on the Chart, if it's stated to be information then it would get it. Else, if it's atleast stated to be data but somehow has no correlation with information. It wouldn't get it tbh (If Chart here doesn't work the same way as World Principles, this won't get Information Type 2 even if the information is tied up with it but rather Type 1 at the least).

Mainly speaking, it's just required for information to be stated atleast once and if it has any correlation. For example, if the information is tied up with the World Principles (law) that's the building block of everything. You would get it.

 

[BreezeHM]

Depends on the Chart, if it's stated to be information then it would get it. Else, if it's atleast stated to be data but somehow has no correlation with information. It wouldn't get it tbh (If Chart here doesn't work the same way as World Principles, this won't get Information Type 2 even if the information is tied up with it but rather Type 1 at the least).

I mean by definition it would have to be information. it is described as a blueprint or core knowledge that dictates how an array functions. The information in the Chart can be altered, manipulated, or destroyed, which impacts the system it governs, aligning with how information can control or influence the behavior of a system in the real world

Mainly speaking, it's just required for information to be stated atleast once and if it has any correlation. For example, if the information is tied up with the World Principles (law) that's the building block of everything. You would get it.

I'm looking for that. So far, I've found that the Soul contains information but not sure if that'll be enough

 

[Voidnether]

I mean by definition it would have to be information. it is described as a blueprint or core knowledge that dictates how an array functions. The information in the Chart can be altered, manipulated, or destroyed, which impacts the system it governs, aligning with how information can control or influence the behavior of a system in the real world

If it is stated as one, then yes. But, I'm still unsure how this would be Type 2 if it's not the same level as the World Principles.

I'm looking for that. So far, I've found that the Soul contains information but not sure if that'll be enough

Just prove the information here makes up reality or participates as the fundamental building block of reality, and you're good to go even for Unconventional Resistance themselves.

 

[Digital_Franz]

Information Manipulation (Type 2; Spiritual Essence is the container for the Spiritual Energy and Divine Soul in every being. It is tied directly to a person's being, allowing one to control the life and death if they have the being's Spiritual Essence. Universe Worlds have their own Spiritual Essence called Auspicious Spirit Essence. Cultivators can overwrite the Universe World's Auspicious Spirit Essence using their own essence, which effects the World Principles and the biology of humans)

Knowledge Sea contains the Mind, Memories and Divine Soul of every being.
World Principles are the fundamental laws and building blocks of everything that exists.

TLDR: Spiritual Essence contains the fundamental aspects of a person's and Universes' being, such as their biology, memories, mind, and soul. Spiritual Essence can be used to alter the fundamental laws and building blocks of a World.

It sucks.

Spiritual Essence seems to be Information Type 1, but the fact that World Principles which seem to be Information Type 2 are affected by the manipulation of Spiritual Essence as a by-product makes it look like Spiritual Essence is more fundamental and therefore Information Type 2.

 

[Voidnether]

It sucks.

Spiritual Essence seems to be Information Type 1, but the fact that World Principles which seem to be Information Type 2 are affected by the manipulation of Spiritual Essence as a by-product makes it look like Spiritual Essence is more fundamental and therefore Information Type 2.

Didn't recognize that earlier, yeah it sucks.
Though, since it's a by-product (Except, if World Principles is legitimately Information Type 2 then all this wouldn't matter) then supposedly it wouldn't get Information Type 2 afaik. Same case happened with Genshin.

Post in thread 'Deleting Misunderstood Information Manipulation Type 2 From Genshin UES Fundamental Mechanism'

Dec 3, 2024

I think we can conclude this CRT just by agreeing to remove Info 2 on Elementary Energy Manipulation, so that the CRT doesn't drag on.

Yeah, Info 2 is exclusively for those being able to manipulate Ley Lines (Without bringing up HSR's scans, but even it'll only serve as the side justification).

Though if you ask me, it's more of like being exclusive to the Irminsul (or Irminsul doesn't get it) itself as Ley Lines only serve as the repository of "fundamental" information — But, it's still Ley Line that makes up the world. Not the repository of information inside of it.

Info Type 2...

• Voidnether

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Last, even on Ley Line themselves there's no proof indicating that Ley Line correlates with information, but rather Ley Line that contains the soul, the soul contains the information but that same information is contained so it'll be something that's like: "Ley Line -> Soul -> Information" but Information here doesn't correlate to Ley Line which is the building block of reality — This is around like the 20-30 minutes of Raiden Shogun's Second Story Quest iirc.

In this case, as long as the Universe World's Auspicious Spirit Essence that's being overwritten is practically information themselves. Yeah, Information Type 2 is fine.
Tbh, it shouldn't get it as what the Cultivators are overwriting here is the soul since Spirit Essence is tied with the soul, but it's not tied with the information inside the soul. So, Type 1.
Regardless whether the Spirit Essence is actually tied to the soul or not since it's just a container — It shouldn't matter as it's Type 1 in the end anyways.

I had to contemplate whether it gets Information Type 2 or not after re-reading it multiple times before I eventually get to this conclusion, sucks so bad. I actually thought it would be Information Type 2 as Cultivators overwriting the Spirit Essence is basically them overwriting information themselves in which it's not actually the case..