Is this Infinite Speed?

[LordGriffin1000]

In Danny Phantom, The Ghost Zone constantly shifts in time, moving backwards and forwards but ghosts are unaffected by this. In two realms of the Ghost Zone, time is literally standing still but the ghosts who live there are unaffected and can move with no problem, it's their natural habitat.

If Ghosts can move when time stands still, and don't get reversed when the Ghost Zone shifts backwards in time would that give them Infinite Speed?. Not going for Upgrades because this would be a massive outlier and goes against several things. This is just question.

 

[Eficiente]

So, Acausality for everyone?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I think that's just a resistance to time manip tbh

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

I agree with Weekly. It's resistance to time manipulation.

 

[Antoniofer]

Depends: What would happends to a common human if it enter into the Ghost Zone (at a temporal level)? Otherwise, it sounds like another localization outside the normal axis of time, or completely outside of it.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Depends: What would happends to a common human if it enter into the Ghost Zone (at a temporal level)? Otherwise, it sounds like another localization outside the normal axis of time, or completely outside of it.

Their molecules would get all rearranged. When they first wake up they'd realize they have snow white hair and glowing green eyes, can walk through walls, disappear, and fly.

 

[Antoniofer]

Yeah, I known the opening, but aside from giving them supernatural powers, what changes at a temporal level?

 

[LordGriffin1000]

@Antoniofer

Honestly it's inconsistent. On one hand, what WeeklyBattles said is true. On the other hand, the only other two people to enter the Ghost Zone was Danny's two friends but they didn't get Ghost powers.

However it is known that one consistent thing that happens when a human enters the Ghost Zone, they become like ghost to other ghost and gain Intangibility. Ghosts cannot touch humans while in the Ghost Zone.

 

[Antoniofer]

Welp, if nothing special happens to the living when entering to the Ghost Zone I doubt it is a notable Resistance/Power; the Ghost Zone is either a place localized outside the space-timeline, or a metaphysical place (I think is more the last one).

 

[LordGriffin1000]

@Antonifer

What do you mean by something special/Temporal level, What would need to happen to them?.

 

[Antoniofer]

If the time inside the Ghost Zone shift or do not progress there's a few interpretation of how could it work, from gradually shifting the age (accelerating or reversing it), or not letting people aging at all; the ghost are immortal so they by default wouldn't be affected at all. Other interpretations would be like, passing 5 min in the Zone, and that in real life passed like 5 days (or the reverse, 5 days there are 5 min in the real life).

It all depends of what happens to normal people if they are in the Ghost Zone.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

As far as I know, nothing like that happens. Though there are times when The characters due seem like they are gone for far longer than normal but it's never directly stated or addressed. The only thing "special" that happens to a human is them gaining Intangibility.

 

[Antvasima]

I also think that this is just resistance to time manipulation.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

It should be noted that the only humans that have entered the realm that are frozen in time the are Sam and Tucker. Now said realm is stated to be frozen in time, when Sam looked at her watch the clock was standing still. Time doesn't move forward at all. Given its only one time, we can easily ignore them moving in the realm because of plot and not to mention this is the ghosts natural habitat and it's one of two realms frozen in time and the ghosts from the other realm are also able to move.

All ghosts should have Resistance to Time Stop given they are able to naturally move in frozen parts of the Ghost Zone and live their. Ghosts do need Immortality Type 1 added to their pages given several of them already have it anyway. This ghost age thing is only questioned in one episode but that moment goes against the rest of the series feats so it shouldn't be counted.

Resistance to Time Stop (Ghosts are capable of moving in frozen time) this should be added to all ghosts. Before anyone tries to bring up Clockwork freezing Danny in time, it should be noted that Clockwork can even effect people wearing Specter Deflectors which completely nullfied ghost abilities that even alter time so he bypasses resistance.

Immortality (Type 1) Given their ectoplasm bodies are just that, ectoplasm, ghost don't age so this should be added to all full Ghosts. Not half Ghosts because Danny and Vlad still have a human for so they age.

However I'd like to know if Antoniofer has any problems with the Time Stop resistance.

 

[Antoniofer]

Take into account that moving in a place where time do not exist/pass =/= moving while time is stopped, time simply do not pass in the Ghost Zone (in theory people do not age there, although a clock not working there do not have sense but that is more a generic fiction problem), so I guess when beings from the normal world go there they do not age and when they go back is like the time hasn't passed or just moved a little (like Narnia).

 

[LordGriffin1000]

@Antoniofer

"Moving in a place where time do not exist/pass =/= moving while time is stopped".

Really?, Even when it's stated that in this part of the Ghost Zone "All time stands still".

I guess I'll just finish the Immortality Type 1 addition then.

 

[Antoniofer]

Imagine a Time Room from DB but instead of dilating the time x365 it dilate up to infinite, people inside of it aren't resistent to time, or at least that is how understand how the Ghost Zone works. Or the other example, the Neverland from Peter Pan, time there do not pass to anyone, and thud do not age. Tucker and Sam freely moving there is enough to show that one do not need resistance/immunity to time manipulation.

Did you say something about ghost aging? I though they have Eternal Life.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

I see what you mean.

They do have eternal life. They all don't age with the exception of the episode, "The Ultimate Enemy" where 10 years have passed and when they show some of the ghosts they look older.

However this goes against the rest of the series. Ghosts have been their for thousands of years and haven't aged at all. The creator even stated ghosts don't age period. Their bodies are made up completely of ectoplasm which always them to basically give themselves shape (some do this better than others).

This one episode goes against everything the series tells us so it shouldn't be considered.

 

[Antoniofer]

Wwlp, if they only age outside the Ghost Zone then it would have sense (except for the part where ghosts age), if they age inside where the time do not pass then is contradictory. Anyway, I'm good with Type 1 immortality.

 

[Antvasima]

I will unsubscribe to this thread as it seems like you have things under control.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Alright than, I guess that's all. I'll close this thread.