Is Star Level AP and Durability in MLP Justified?

[Firestorm808]

This is in regards to the TV show.

All of the big villains in the series on this site scale to the fact that Celestia and Luna move the sun and moon.

I can't help but feel that using it as AP, Durability, and etc is an outlier since it thows everything off. Everyone else is around Tier 6, not to mention numerous non-sun/moon involved feats being much lower.

I understand that the princesses get the Star Trek under the bus routine for the sake of the plot, but even this feels like too much.

Queen Chrysalis powered by one Shining Armor's love was able to take down Celestia, and Shining Armor and Princess Cadance took Queen Chrysalis down with love in turn.

Lord Tirek needed to absorb the magic in all the ponies in Equestria to overpower Discord. As a massive high ball assuming each is pony is Island level (4.184*10^21 J) and multiply that by the population of the US in 2010 (309.3 million), the final AP would be 1.294111*10^30 J or Moo level.

Princess Luna and Princess Celestia apparently can't stop a snowstorm, but the Crystal Heart can. It's strange to imagine a Star level storm being a thing but then magic.

A group of Changelings somehow took down all the royals.

Discord has his own realm with a light source that has not been proven to be a sun.

If they ever blew up the moon and magic it back, star level AP would be more plausible. However, it feels like moving the Sun and Moon is just a gimmick and doesn't connect to their AP and Durability. Then again, the 'F*ck it, it's magic' line can try to make it work.

What are your thoughts?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Group actions in fiction tend to be much stronger than individual actions.

 

[Lightbuster30]

Even though Luna conjured a storm just by shouting, yet she can't disperse another storm? Them failing to stop it is a blantant outlier.

 

[TriforcePower1]

At most I can understand if you're arguing about not scaling said feats to SS, but I'm really unsure about calling them outliers.

 

[Js250476]

Wrong cutie mark Rarity > Alicorns confirmed ovo

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Lord Tirek needed to absorb the magic in all the ponies in Equestria to overpower Discord. As a massive high ball assuming each is pony is Island level (4.184*10^21 J) and multiply that by the population of the US in 2010 (309.3 million), the final AP would be 1.294111*10^30 J or Moo level.

Tbh I don't think his progressions in strength were linear...

 

[Lightbuster30]

As a general rule: most power boosts aren't linear, so yeah probably not.

 

[Firestorm808]

If Queen Chrysalis was Star level with just Shining Armor, she would have been massively stronger in the season 6 finale. However, the shared love of Thorax blew her away. Does that mean Thorax is massively stronger than Star level? Then again, 'f*ck it, it's magic.'

 

[Lightbuster30]

If Queen Chrysalis was Star level with just Shining Armor, she would have been massively stronger in the season 6 finale. However, the shared love of Thorax blew her away. Does that mean Thorax is massively stronger than Star level? Then again, 'f*ck it, it's magic.'

Which means that shared love >> stolen love. Designed to show just how powerful shared love can be. It's just power scaling shenanegins. In addition Shining Armor absolutely loved his wife. It was a full blown marriage. The love he felt on those days was easily at it's peak, and likely more powerful than normal because of it.

 

[Lightbuster30]

1. Has already been addressed.

2. Power levels are non-linear most of the time.

3. Massive outlier since Luna's voice can summon storms, and the fact that small groups of pegasi can overpower massive ones, and the individual princesses >> most of the combined country.

4. Easily an outlier yet again. For goodness sake Discord of all creatures got nerfed. This is just a classic example of PIS. Especially considering Shining held off the whole damn army by himself for days, and barley conscious.

5. Discord's realm doesn't even have a light source. It's just a plaid purple background.