Is jumping lifting strength, a conversation

[Agnaa]

Otherwise for this point here, we've always allowed this depending on the feat in question.

"Always allowed this" seems false, but I guess it needs a new thread since it's apparently not an easy agree, I'll strikethrough that part of my post.

 

[KLOL506]

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[Agnaa]

Made a thread about the topic here.

 

[Dalesean027]

Made a thread about the topic here.

Through the mass of the object, or the pressure required to change its state or cause failure, calculated directly through force rather than laundered through destruction values.

Some instances wouldn't, but others would.

Bending can be directly calculated as LS.

The LS would be derived from the height reached.

The issue I have isn't that destruction happens somewhere. It's that these are AP calculations simply dividing by length at the end to get LS.

In the same way, you can't get speed from KE destruction, but if a character threw a 1000 kg ball such that it crossed a country 2,000 km long in one minute, you could calculate both KE and speed from that. That does not run afoul of "speed from KE" standards, it's just an instance where speed and KE can be derived from the same feat.

Here just swap this over to the new thread thats why I deleted my comment here

 

[Agnaa]

Here just swap this over to the new thread thats why I deleted my comment here

Already did

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Lifting Strength by definition is the strength to lift something. A jump is you lifting yourself into the air. Pretty Simple to me.
(That's an agree btw)

 

[Armorchompy]

Are we moving to another thread, or is that one just a spinoff? Regarding this bit I've always been of the opinion that jumping counts for LS (PE does at least, KE i've seen more disagreeing with so maybe they should be separated)

 

[Agnaa]

That one's a spinoff.