Is EMR accepted within the wiki?

[EfeTahir7]

In other words, is it possible to upgrade a character or cosmology to H1A+ level using EMR?

 

[AyOgUyS]

Depends on how the verse portrays EMR.

 

[Quantumnessmechanics]

Yes, but the "impossible worlds" part of EMR will be ignored.

 

[EfeTahir7]

Depends on how the verse portrays EMR.

Will a character who violates the three laws of thinking reach H1A+ level?

 

[EfeTahir7]

Yes, but the "impossible worlds" part of EMR will be ignored.

Will a character who violates the three laws of thinking reach H1A+ level?

 

[Quantumnessmechanics]

Will a character who violates the three laws of thinking reach H1A+ level?

No, it is unqualifiable.

 

[Livinaa]

No, it is unqualifiable.

That's old. Here's something new.

The important part is this:

I think whether extended sets of all logically possible worlds are considered "stronger" is an independent question, contingent on how one even wishes to define strength at these tiers.
For this thread, I would just suggest we establish that different sets of "logically possible worlds" exist (which just seems like a fact IMO) and establish the one resulting from classical logic as the thing one needs to demonstrate to qualify for the tier.

We're not defining it as any set of "logically possible worlds", just those equivalent to ones constructed with those three laws.

Fictions that talk about "all logically possible worlds" by a weaker logic would still qualify on grounds of having the set established by classical logic as a subset.

Allowing logical contradictions would be a sign of it being a weaker logic than classical, not a stronger one

 

[EfeTahir7]

No, it is unqualifiable.

I think it's necessary because a character who violates the three laws of thinking should be able to influence the realm of impossible worlds, which are based on violating those three laws.

 

[Quantumnessmechanics]

I think it's necessary because a character who violates the three laws of thinking should be able to influence the realm of impossible worlds, which are based on violating those three laws.

Sorry, it is not unquantifiable. That was an outdated thread like said above your comment. However, a character violating the LoT locally doesn't mean they affect all impossible worlds. Unless shown to, it would simply qualify for Logic Manipulation instead.