Ink!Sans CRT #2 (It's been too long...)

[WizardPowers101]

Hello! This is gonna be my first FC/OC-related thread, so that's fun.

As of recently, I've come to discover that Ink should have a lot more added to his profile than what is already on there. Yeah, who knew the guy with barely any story and a tumblr still has a lot to chew on.

Although it's a bit redundant since profiles on FC/OC can be edited by the fans of said verse, I feel as though a consensus is always good to solidify decisions like this.

Without further ado...

First up:

Addition to Abilities and Powers​

1. AcausalityType 1; Ink!Sans is canon to the interactions made within an AU called UNDERTOP. That being said, he is also unaffected by the resets made in that same AU. Due to his Out!Code like nature, he shouldn't necessarily be impacted by things such as RESETS.
2. Information Analysis; This should go alongside Clairvoyance, as he is implied to scan AUs to gain information about them, which should explain why he's rumored to see each AU's events unfold through his eyes, as he himself even says that he can see everything throughout the limitless multiverse.
3. Power Bestowal; Can grant someone powers.
4. Limited Reactive Evolution; When someone else is operating his body, it can adapt to that person's own power
5. Likely Physics Manipulation - Gravity Manipulation; Should go alongside flight. Due to creating the Doodlesphere, he would by extension be responsible for it not abiding to normal physics.
6. Spatial Manipulation with Scissors
7. Code Manipulation; Can manipulate the code of someone to get said soul. Imported the sky, watchtower, and blasters from Zephyrtale after copying them into Zephyrtop.
8. Mid-Godly Regeneration; Had his body reconstructed despite losing his soul and being erased from his AU.

Attack Potency, Durability, and Speed​

No longer will Human level Ink be tolerated! He's not fodder I say! Not fodder!
Ink!Sans in His Story, is shown to be able to endure a VERY LARGE drop of paint, which should make him around Small Building level. This affects his Attack Potency, due to the implication Comyet makes about how Ink should have a way higher ATK than his DEF in reality, making his Attack Potency and Striking Strength scale. Plus, as a bonus, he can punch through frozen surfaces if he wanted to.

How does this impact his speed? Well, if you pay attention. Ink actually reacts to it when it's EXTREMELY close to him. So, he should be around Superhuman. He is implied to fight anomalies to protect AUs, yet Swap Papyrus in the Underswap Comic is unphased by Ink!Sans's reaction speed, so Ink!Sans should scale in other aspects of speed as well.

Stamina​

Ink!Sans should probably be given an Infinite rating on his stamina. Realistically and logically, if one were to have the ability to not need to rest, eat, or breathe, shouldn't this give them limitless stamina? That's just me though.

Intelligence​

I believe Ink should be given a Gifted rating on his intelligence.
My Justification:
Ink!Sans' creativity is what makes up most of his intelligence, showing how he can think of various things that the average person wouldn't. He is stated to be able to play the flute and knows how to sew. Was remarked by his creator to be cunning and witty but not a genius. Was able to understand the various AUs and learned how to control his abilities in quick succession. Without his creation powers, Ink is capable of building machinery, writing down blueprints and has studied astrophysics, along with learning more about the vast Multiverse he is in. Albeit this, he does have a short-term memory that impacts his actual cognitive ability.

Creation​

Now, I believe he should have a creation rating of AT THE VERY LEAST 4-A, with the maximum being 2-A, which is the one i'll be proposing.

2-A comes from the Doodlespehre being the exact same size as the multiverse, as both should be parallel, as it's implied. In the FAQ, Comyet confirms that the void that he's in is transformed into the doodlesphere.
As a reminder, the multiverse is said to be limitless by Ink, with this further being supported by Comyet, as she views the multiverse as endless.

However, 4-A should be fine to add as well if 2-A isn't accepted, as in the His Story comic, Ink quite literally makes a world with multiple stars in the background, with Comyet literally confirming that Outertale looks just like his Doodlesphere. (Which should give him space survival btw)

TLDR​

• Ink should be upgraded to Small Building level and have Superhuman level speeds.
• His stamina rating should be reconsidered to Infinite.
• His Intelligence should be Gifted.
• Should have the abilities listed above added to his profile.

 

[WizardPowers101]

I guess I'll make the changes then lol...

 

[Walker21232123]

The Doodlesphere having contains doors to each AU whereas within those doors theres even more doors for each AU about that AU,

This is from your update of the page but that has been retcon. Here with the QNA (The QNA post was Last update on November 13, 2021. while the scan is from 2017) has said about the Doodle sphere:

"The Doodle sphere is a colorful world where big-sized buckets float. Each bucket is an AU. The liquid in these buckets is a portal inside the AU." plus there also this

The Floating Islands Doodle Sphere has been retconned. Q&A is taken as a higher priority since it is more up to date. His Story comic did use that version of the Doodle Sphere, but any feats from it can be used unless they contradict the Q&A.

the Addition to Abilities and Powers is fine

 

[WizardPowers101]

This is from your update of the page but that has been retcon. Here with the QNA (The QNA post was Last update on November 13, 2021. while the scan is from 2017) has said about the Doodle sphere:

"The Doodle sphere is a colorful world where big-sized buckets float. Each bucket is an AU. The liquid in these buckets is a portal inside the AU." plus there also this

The Floating Islands Doodle Sphere has been retconned. Q&A is taken as a higher priority since it is more up to date. His Story comic did use that version of the Doodle Sphere, but any feats from it can be used unless they contradict the Q&A.

the Addition to Abilities and Powers is fine

Alright, I’ll take that into account. But I believe the creation scaling should still stand.

Do you think everything else is good?

 

[Volt12121]

Seems like this would be the best place to discuss this.

I'm fine with most of the additions that were added, altought i would personally remove Deathless Immortality, as nothing implies he's unbounded by conventional life or death. Him being "considered dead" is more in the undead type of way, otherwise there is very little reason he'd considered something like his low defense to be worrisome (shown when papyrus slamed him into the wall)

I'm also rather iffy on Regeneration, sense he "displayed" it one time and is otherwise considered fairly easy to harm and defeat and clearly Mid-Godly Regen would negate such a thing. There's also the case of his skull being cracked by Papyrus and it obviously not healing itself.

 

[WizardPowers101]

Seems like this would be the best place to discuss this.

I'm fine with most of the additions that were added, altought i would personally remove Deathless Immortality, as nothing implies he's unbounded by conventional life or death. Him being "considered dead" is more in the undead type of way, otherwise there is very little reason he'd considered something like his low defense to be worrisome (shown when papyrus slamed him into the wall)

I'm also rather iffy on Regeneration, sense he "displayed" it one time and is otherwise considered fairly easy to harm and defeat and clearly Mid-Godly Regen would negate such a thing. There's also the case of his skull being cracked by Papyrus and it obviously not healing itself.

For the deathless immortality, it’s already established that he came from an Undertale-based AU, where both code and his soul are established concepts that are a way of existence. Since he’s no longer part of the script/tore his soul, which erased him, he’d no longer be alive on that account, but he isn’t dead neither obviously. That’s the whole reasoning of why the question is answered like that.

Also, he never really worries at all? I mean… in the comic you’re referring to he just talks about how Papyrus has a good grip and wants to be let go. Plus, it’s not like he knows about that really. Comyet states that Ink doesn’t know why he doesn’t have a soul like everyone else, but he simply doesn’t consider himself living BECAUSE of that fact. You can still damage a “corpse”, but it wouldn’t necessarily die unless you got rid of it entirely.

He’s never considered to be easy to harm, just defeat iirc. But for the skull cracking stuff, yeah that kinda puts a dent in the argument. Tho tbf, it kinda makes no sense how he just…appears again.

 

[Volt12121]

For the deathless immortality, it’s already established that he came from an Undertale-based AU, where both code and his soul are established concepts that are a way of existence. Since he’s no longer part of the script/tore his soul, which erased him, he’d no longer be alive on that account, but he isn’t dead neither obviously. That’s the whole reasoning of why the question is answered like that.

Also, he never really worries at all? I mean… in the comic you’re referring to he just talks about how Papyrus has a good grip and wants to be let go. Plus, it’s not like he knows about that really. Comyet states that Ink doesn’t know why he doesn’t have a soul like everyone else, but he simply doesn’t consider himself living BECAUSE of that fact. You can still damage a “corpse”, but it wouldn’t necessarily die unless you got rid of it entirely.

I don't really know, from what i gathered him being considered dead is most from the fact that without a soul someone can't feel anything. Hell when he has no paint he becomes an empty husk unable to do anything. I doubt the author ever really intended to make him unbound by death or something to that effect, because i especially remember him being compared to a "walking corpse" which feels much more akin to simply being undead rather than straight up deathless.

He’s never considered to be easy to harm, just defeat iirc. But for the skull cracking stuff, yeah that kinda puts a dent in the argument. Tho tbf, it kinda makes no sense how he just…appears again.

Comyet actually said so here that he is actually easy to harm you were probably thinking of this

"Ink’s body can be completely controlled by someone else, but his ink abilities will not be available anymore until he is refilled with paints. Surprisingly enough, it’s very easy to defeat him!"

As for him just reappearing, yeah it's definitely weird, but i dunno, at that point i'd just argue the author not realizing the implications of coming back from something of the sorts. Especially since he's confirmed as easily injurable and is never once stated to be capable of regenerating wounds

 

[WizardPowers101]

I don't really know, from what i gathered him being considered dead is most from the fact that without a soul someone can't feel anything. Hell when he has no paint he becomes an empty husk unable to do anything. I doubt the author ever really intended to make him unbound by death or something to that effect, because i especially remember him being compared to a "walking corpse" which feels much more akin to simply being undead rather than straight up deathless.

I’ll focus on this section now, since the regeneration stuff was talked over.

I mean…not really? Idk where you got that from. He’s called a walking corpse because he is one by technicality. Without a soul and not in an AU, he’s not alive at all nor considered as such but obviously isn’t dead either, so it’s not like he’s bound by life, especially since he’s ageless, and can die either. So, if his vials go away, he just stops really…doing anything, however Comyet states if you just refill his vials, he’ll be just fine at that point.

Like..think of like this.

If you look at what Comyet says, she states that as long as the fandom is here, Ink will be healthy and energetic. Hell, even in one statement it’s said that Ink disappears alongside the AUs if they did as well. Plus he’s ageless and the only thing really keeping him conscious is the vials + the fact that he’s considered dead by all accounts showcases that he is unbound by conventional life.

And obviously…he’s not dead dead. So he’s not really bound by that either, since he doesn’t need a soul to live despite undertale based AUs requiring the opposite, or else you would be erased. So he isn’t necessarily bounded by conventional death either.

If you actually look at how this is handled, the author makes it clear that Ink is very much in an in-between state of life AND death. Especially since Comyet even sent a gif of somehow shrugging, showing how it can be conflicting since he can’t be “alive and dead” yet he is.

A logical explanation for this is can be that he just isn’t necessarily tied to either concept. Which makes the most sense here honestly.